then I have to go back to research the bombers
has aim120
Do you think I was not aware of that when I made the prior statement? The hornet is a LOT better. 13.0 platforms ONLY get fox-3s if they are DISADVANTAGED in MOST other ways to justify such a low BR. Such as: Phantoms, Tornados, Harriers, J-8. These are all old gen3 platforms.
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it would be 13.3 because of the prem su30s with russia, china that are 13.3 with fox3 missiles.
No, it wouldn’t. The current hornets are 14.0 in the tech tree with amraams. That’s exactly where it goes.
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Instead of doing that, just move the premium flankers to like 14.0 and the current 14.3s to 15.0
9Ms alone would result in 13.0
Aim-120s as well would make it 13.7/14.0
You do know it wouldnt be 12.7 right?
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Yes, and the F-4F early is 10.3
Once you strap the better stuff to it, it goes up in BR.
The hornet is a much better platform, has more CMs and hard points and much more advanced avionics
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Why would a Su30Mk2 be equal to a F-15E? Or higher BR than the superior Su-27SM or J-11B? You’re overcompensating. They simply need to decompress.
You know it is the best F/A-18 premium right
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But it needs Aim-9Ms and AMRAAM at 12.7 so they can just get super easy kills :P
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It would basically be the F-18C which is the worst 14.0 in warthunder shoot im all for the prem F-18’s suffering let him find out how bad his idea is.
Considering the only 14.0s better than it are the F-15E/I, and Gripen E… nah, not the worst.
F-16I and Mirage 2000 exist at the same BR.
These are the only 2 other planes at the BR that isnt an f-18 also the Mirage 2000 is not worse than the F-18 in almost any way
Mirage 2000 has a slower search rate radar that doesn’t have the strength of the F-18’s radar, it has a notably worse airframe, and worse options for air.
Mirage 2000 gets a better radar missiles for WVR, and F-18C gets better everything else.
the difference isnt really that large nor dose it matter since they are both pretty bad radars for 14.0.
its faster has decent maneuverability and energy retention in what way is the F-18 notable better??
your not gonna BVR in either plane so using HMD micas at 19km is simply a better way to play and more consistent that using aim120s
F-18C has among the best radars at 14.0, with Gripen E being the primary radar to surpass it.
F-18C is faster in acceleration, climb rate, and that leads to its superior sustained turn rates as well.
Full internal fuel; Mach 1.5, 10,000 meters, 0 - 1000kph.
The F-18 has faster low speed accelerations but you need to keep in mind you start at 1150 not on the ground considering the F-18 hits a clif in accel the second it hits mc 1.2 in your average game the mirage is gonna be going faster but the time you enter combat, but that also wouldn’t even matter since as i said you cant BRV with either plane so the plane thats better in close range is the better plane.
Yeah, the Mirage can run away, that won’t win them the match though.
F-104s are faster in top speed than Mig-19s and F-100s, but F-104s are drastically inferior in air matches.
Having a higher top speed to run away with can be useful, but it’s not ideal without other strengths to boost positioning.