Sukhoi Su-57 Felon - Technical details, Analysis and Discussion

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the 177S is already in service also known as Al-41S

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I hope you are sarcastic

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People are confusing 117 and 177 again?

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Sorry for being just a tad bit more skeptical of Russian procurement than American I guess.

America tends to be far more reliable about actually getting things made, and seeing as we have actual confirmation that AIM-260 is in LRIP, I don’t see why this logic would apply to izd.810 since Izd.810 hasn’t had any meaningful news about it in a year or 3…

Quite a LARGE difference to AIM-260 which has had a decent stream of information coming out every so often.

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Izd. 177 needs Type 99 mounts like those on the AL-31 Flankers.

AL-41S uses different mounts.

Izd. 177 is not Al-41S.

Also you literally proved it yourself.

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117 vs 177

I do wonder what the difference between 177 and 177S is, since 177 seems a lot stronger.

al-41s can be used in old al-31 equipped aircraft though as well. just needs some changes
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Really? last I heard the AL-41 needed different mounts.

But alright. Guess I was wrong.

it does need some changes, just that it can be done on any previous flanker platform.
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so the same as putting F100-PW-229 or even -232 in F15As?

or probably even F110-GE-132

This naming got me confused, I read 117S and 177S as the same thing.

So I guess 117S, 177 and 177S are all separate engines.

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This one is just Al-41

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just another day in the Russian arms industry

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Well, to be fair, Izd 177 and 177S Is just a factory name. In service it will get something along the usual AL-something

let’s go!
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John Su57

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