Sukhoi Su-35S Flanker-M: The Last Flanker

They should add it soon as the F-16E block 60, F-16C/V block 70 and F/A-18E block I are the only aircrafts left to add to USA before pushing top tier air higher
We should also get the F-14D but Gaijin is Gaijin and they might make it premium lol

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14.3 at the minimum.

Depends on the missiles it gets

It could get 120Bs and it still shouldn’t be below 14.3. It would outright stomp the F-15E in every aspect imagineable.

The F-16E? The fat F-16? I mean it’s radar is good and the IRST is nice, but it’s bigger and draggier which is sort of cancelled out by GE-132 but I doubt it would match or best the speed of the F-15

Yeah, the F-16 with the strongest of any and all operational DFE derivatives, the strongest radar ever put into an F-16, accompanying IRST alongside the already monstrous radar, ALR-69A, and still managing to hold a modest combat weight.

It isn’t “bigger”, and its fuel tanks were designed with a requirement to be as minimally punishing to drag as possible. So much so that the standard 300gal tank sits at a hefty +15 drag index, with the CFTs weighing less than twice the centerline tank while also holding a stated drag index of… 0. All in all, the CFT outfit is estimated to effectively sit at +4.

What are the names 3 one

What’s a DFE?
US F-16’s have also gotten ALR-69, IRST is fair enough, and you can drop the tanks if necessary. What about APG-83?

Quickly checking online, it seems the F-16E weighs about 4,000lb more which doesn’t quite make up for the difference in thrust

Any F100, F101, or F110. The F110-132 was quite a bit underpowered compared to an untrimmed F100-232 (-132 was 35k, -232 was 37k), but the -232 never once made it to fruition. Instead, the 229B and C were invested in.

ALR-69A was first made for the F-16E explicitly. They both use it, though the F-16E was tailor-built for it and supplemental systems.

With the downside of a worse radar.

Why would you need to drop the tanks if they add a miniscule amount of drag that’s inconsequential to flight performance? At the very least it’s <200kg heavier when empty, then again you also have an additional 1.6t of thrust.

It’s by no means 4000lbs heavier, the aircraft differs from the 16CM-50 by 1400lbs. If you want to compare it to a pre-CCIP falcon, the CJ-50 is a flat 2000lbs lighter.

Its difference in weight is half that of its increase in thrust. Not to mention the added fuel efficiency of the -132 over the -129.

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Dang didn’t know it was that monstruous, I thought it was just sorta equivalent to a block 70… You’re saying it should be higher than the block 70?
Though we should move to the F-16 topic since this is about the Su-35S

Yeah, the entire point of the Viper is to set prior and current-production F-16s to a reasonably similar capability as the E/F-60. The radar’s designed to work with a variety of signal processors set out from prior F-16AMs and early-block 16Cs.

Sure, if you wanna move to off-topic we can.

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Wait there’s an “off-topic” channel in here?

i can see them adding 2 variants of the su-35 one without maws/lws and one with. su-35s from ‘01’ and onwards seem to have both maws and lws, but ‘901’ and ‘902’ don’t, i think those are prototypes or early su-35 based on the su-27m? they lack the maws/lws sensors. so we may get su35 early , su35 late ?.




What indication of T-10BM-[1/2] having MAWS do you see? I never looked too closely at the prototype Su-35S airframes, but I don’t think I’ve heard of MAWS being used on them.

Edit: I literally cannot read.

i dont see the maws on them either, i only saw them on production models

S35s have maw ???

I don’t remember exactly, but it definitely does.

yes
https://npk-spp.ru/en/air/for-su/maws/
called I-222 SOER
I dunno the specifics of it

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Is it the same one as su25sm3 or like su57 or different

it gets much better coverage than the su25sm3 (i think 6 sensors totally) but idk if it uses a different sensor.