Yeah, I wouldn’t trust Gaijin’s TVC control to be optimal …
Especially given how TVC on missiles behaves …
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
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Just want to post here how much better the flanker is compared to the F-18 for low speed high ADD flying lol.
Irl or in game? Rn the f18 in game is much better than flanker at sub 400 kph
IRL the F-18 will begin to lose control at around 35 degrees AOA. It is also limited to 7G
Maybe you Russian players could nerf the Hornet wink wink…
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Wouldn’t this fall under the same umbrella that f 16 is currently in? As in, deep stalls and instability is not modeled in the game?
This is in game and I can prove it
The F-5 among other jets will have uncomanded auto roll if pulled into too deep of an AOA
Actually scratch that. Every plane has it.
it was already like that on the dev server, with 12 r77-1 + 2 r73 and 27 min of fuel, it could only pull 8 or 9g above mach 1
I don’t think we use tvc when using mouse aiming controls(for pitch), the instructor/plane doesn’t pull enough AoA to use tvc, not even at low speeds, the only time we can use tvc for pitch is when we press the cobra button, other than that, with mouse aim and cobra button still off, we only have roll and yaw
thats why we cant turn so well lol
Yea but that its in STR. ITR should be better/same than other flanker. Currently is not.
But that is not the case. You can see the TVC moving when taking off. The thing its that the FCS should control that and always use the best options. Yesterday trying to found what Yamahagi posted on J-11 Thread. I even read how they Configure the FCS to compensate for when one wing have a lot more weight than the other. So the plane could fly normally.
They change how TVC worked at first because people was crying that it lose to much speed. And if I’m wrong they change the TVC from 4º to 2º. so they did change it.
Maybe Russia never teste the benefice of TVC at high speed.
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yeah but what im saying is that when the su30 is flying above 900km/h ( even bellow 900 ), it doesnt use tvc for pitch at all, im not saying this is right or wrong since i dont know im just saying how it is in wt
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yea just check. And they don’t work over 800km/h or something.
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not even at 600 or less, the instructor doesn’t allow much AoA and that’s why the plane doesn’t use the tvc for pitch either, just yaw and roll
if you try this at 600 you will see that the tvc nozzles will be straight when pulling up and not upwards
That is just nonsense. Just went into test drives, nozzles deflect substancially at 700 kph
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?? not for pitch (with mouse aim controlls) just for yaw and roll
I am in full real with dampening. maybe its different
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well then your argument is useless, i’m talking about when you are using air RB controls (mouse aiming)
It’s an instructor problem then(shocker). Not a jet problem.
and thats my whole point?
But wouldn’t the weight increase impact it? It’s considerably heavier than the other flankers we have ingame.
Sustain sure, no doubt about it. But that its mostly because the “weak” engine.
ATM su33 has better FM. While also Heavy than Su-30sm. Without FBW FCS… Or TVC…
Maybe it’s because of the messy tvc