Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

To be honest i don’t understand this ocean of tears. I recommend more patience next time because you just took a 2 minute look into my text and assumed it was about complaining about russia’s performance being bad in the meta, when in fact it was an explanation to another non Russia player how russian jets are not overpowered.

You mean the last 2000 posts in this thread?

I know exactly what you meant with your post. And I’m saying I did exactly that, ground it out. and what have I found: The amount of cope and skill issue in this thread is incredible

In both sources, the numbers are correct, the game with numbers just takes place…

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  1. For example, at an altitude of 10,975 meters, he will have a 2,0M. speed…Maximum allowable Mach number is specified (e.g. strength limit)…
  2. And at an altitude of more than 11,000 meters, the speed will be 1,9M…The maximum speed at altitude is indicated (in the USSR/Russia it is altitude = 11,000 meters or more)…
  3. analogous to fuel _ in the first case Maximum refueling, in the second case minus the weight of the fuel that cannot be removed from the fuel system (hence the difference of 220 kilograms)…

Bundesheer - Waffen und Gerät - Eurofighter EF 2000

But do you know where the first picture is from and what the watermark says?

If you want to engage on people that think ussr jets are trash go for It, you won’t get that from me because I’m not a 1 nation player and i perfectly understand that as of now there isn’t any super trash top tier jet.

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I don’t know where to ask the person who posted the picture (most likely judging by the font from some textbook)…
Slightly changed the message-read again…

Then you are the exception here. And actually levelheaded about the jet.

you just want me to get banned lol
but we all know and love the trusty su27sk manual

Dude you don’t even play in ARB only Sim where the Su-27 can sneak up with just turning on IRST on unsuspecting blufor

When most complains of the Su-27 platform is in ARB

Not really. But it’s not different than any other modern jet: If you can’t use the source that says something then it’s not like it’s going to change anyway.

no, thats just no

your radar is alot more important in sim

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yeah they started to ignore the flight manual and are saying
“it is just a pdf a guy made”

1 advantage of sim is the lack of markers, that’s where IRST is really strong because you can sneak up on people

Then they aren’t using it right. The advantages of the Su-27SM are amplified in ARB since it has better situational awareness than it normally would.

You have a link to the report?

iam gonna look for it

I always thought the flanker was more than enough for the meta even when they used t-10 documents to model it because of its powerful payload (although it wasn’t nice to have such a lazily made FM)…

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It’s not because the IRST is significantly underperforming, and it’s interaction with the FCS is also incorrect, but that’s a symptom of the implementation for all in-game not just the Su-27.

You’re better off just keeping an R-73 spooled up and looking around than you are using the IRST.

found it


https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/U209JJp8UNJs

In what part of IRST is really strong = underperforming? People literally turn off the crappy N001 set and hug the ground against space climbing blufor just to ambush them with ETs (and the lack of markers helps with that)