Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

What a damn long mission

No

image literally shows fuel tanks in the vertical stabilizers, wdym no

These are not vertical stabilizers, but side beams.

Fair enough, I would have appreciated it if you started with that instead of just No

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I mistranslated the payload section from that source. Yandex failed me.

A compilation of (primary) sources on Su-35:

Su-35 booklet Rus:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181221074318/http://www.knaaz.org/media/rus/about/production/military/su-35/su-35_buklet_rus.pdf

Su-35 booklet Eng:
https://airgroup2000.com/gallery/albums/userpics/32438/SU-35_TM_eng.pdf

Su-35 Program Press kit of JSC “UAC” from August 17, 2011:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220128230919/http://knaaz.org/media/rus/about/production/military/su-35/su-35_press-kit.pdf

UAC/Sukhoi Su-35 Brochure:
https://www.avia-n-aero.ru/coa/_files/exhibition/303616228899C1F56E.jpg

Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Plant ((KnAAZ or KnAAPO)'s website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220112183103/http://knaaz.org/products/su-35/

United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231001150753/https://www.uacrussia.ru/ru/aircraft/lineup/military/su-35/#aircraft-specific
https://web.archive.org/web/20221230195501/https://uacrussia.ru/ru/aircraft/lineup/military/su-35/#design-features
https://web.archive.org/web/20230927022434/https://uacrussia.ru/en/aircraft/lineup/military/su-35/#aircraft-specific
https://web.archive.org/web/20230202214924/https://uacrussia.ru/en/aircraft/lineup/military/su-35/#design-features

Sukhoi’s website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220302204136/https://www.sukhoi.org/products/samolety/256/

Rosoboronexport (Official arms-export organization of the Russian government) website:
https://roe.ru/production/aviatsionnaya-tekhnika-i-vooruzhenie-vozdushno-kosmicheskikh-sil/samolety/mnogotselevye-istrebiteli-i-istrebiteli-bombardirovshchiki/su-35/

FSVTS (Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation) website:
https://www.fsvts.gov.ru/catalog/680.ru.html

IRST & TGP & MAW & LWS manufacturer (Research-and-Production Corporation Precision Systems and Instruments, NPK SPP):
https://npk-spp.ru/air/ols/
https://npk-spp.ru/air/ols-konteiner/
https://npk-spp.ru/en/air/for-su/ols/
https://npk-spp.ru/en/air/for-su/soec/
https://npk-spp.ru/en/air/for-su/maws/
https://npk-spp.ru/en/air/for-su/lws/
https://web.archive.org/web/20150610162859/http://www.npk-spp.ru:80/deyatelnost/avionika/166-ols-35.html

OLS-35 brochure:

Spoiler

Radar manufacturer/designer (Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design, NIIP)'s website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240527195250/https://www.niip.ru/catalog/eksportnaya-produktsiya/rlsu-irbis-e/
https://web.archive.org/web/20171016092505/http://niip.ru:80/catalog/aviatsionnoe-naprvlenie/rlsu-irbis/

Irbis-E Brochure:

Spoiler

Irbis-E Brochure 2B

Sources for Su-35’s Irbis-E’s ability to guide two R-27ERs simultaneously from NIIP’s website (Also contains some general info about Irbis-E):
https://web.archive.org/web/20080327051343/http://www.niip.ru/main.php?page=library_sky19
https://web.archive.org/web/20090304194610/http://www.niip.ru/main.php?page=library_sky17

Other pages regarding Irbis-E from NIIP’s website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090210204623/http://www.niip.ru:80/main.php?page=library_sky18

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A lot of Russian companies have removed their military products from their websites since the start of the contemporary world events.

I assume it has to do with trying to avoid sanctions etc.

But the internet archive links are the last snapshot of each page.

The internet archive links (snapshots) are also cross-archived in archive.today, in case internet archive has problems (like they had recently).

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Similar functionality to PIRATE?

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Fuck no. Also cope

Well thats your view…I forsee tears when the F-15EX/SA gets added with 22 120s! As that would be a realistic payload for that airframe and Boeing confirm as much.

Or we could maybe think about the health of the game and how bad it is for any nation realistic or not to have more than 8 missiles.

My Calculations are 25300 cross weight. -570k (2xR-73+2xR-77) -5750 fuel -400 Khibiny pods. The Knaapo Brochure has Khibiny pods include. That is why the Wingspan is 15.3 instead of the regular 14.7m.

PIRATE is probably better … But more or less yeah.

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That’s not a real payload unfortunately. Both EX and SA are only 100% confirmed to carry 12. EX might be able to get double fuselage racks that were put on F-15C but that adds up to 16 on the EX

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Still 16 120s likely C models in game will be stupid
Why allow it to carry 22 and confirm it can structurally manage 22 120s if the airframe cannot shoot them?

Same reasoning why Flanker airframe can technically carry more ETs but aren’t able to fire them from any pylons

Tbh, I’m not even sure what setup they had in mind. Everything that works or might work would add up to only 18 amraam (if centerline can be used to carry the double racks)

Iirc, they said 22 amraam but then stopped saying it or something like that

The US if they wanted to likely could though the pylons are in a place the missiles would drop free on the correct 120 dual mounts.

I wouldnt be so sure the F-15EX couldnt use all of those 120s

I don’t think this is exclusive to the US