Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Where are you getting 6-8 on inner wing from?

God whispered into their ears

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If it intefrated ofc

These aren’t the quad racks that can’t actually fire right?

You already post the brochure.

I have see multiple interaction of these number going around. Someone even specified that the number are with Khibiny pods.

Its funny you say this, because in sim the Su-30 gets conpletely destroyed by the hornet. 12 missiles mean nothing as long as multi-pathing remains as it is. At which point the Su-30 is heavy that anything beats it in a merge. Thrust vectoring only works with altitude, but if you climb youre dead, cus youre no longer multi-pathing.

In short, your only benefit in the Su-30 is actually your biggest weaknesses.

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Sim is a very different game mode and one I dont have experience in. That does surprise me though with Su-30 having a much better Radar/similar performance and similar missiles.

Seems like this is the IRST manufacturer:

https://npk-spp.ru/air/ols/

https://npk-spp.ru/en/air/for-su/ols/

Seems like it has ±90 deg in azimuth:

https://vpk.name/library/f/ols-35.html

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You can see everything. But the moment you turn that radar on, you kick the hornets nest. Literally. F-18’s will immediately start rushing you at low altitude and all 12 of your R-77’s are useless in this situation. Best option is to risk merge and get a lucky R-73. If it gets flared, youre dead.

Can you not search using the IRST system and then switch to Radar once you find them?

Its funny if this was DCS the Flanker would be down low and the Hornets up high

the current irst of the su-30 is performing alot worse than the su-27 one,
this is becuase gaijin copy pasted the irst code from the su-27 before the did some changes/ fixes to the irst and never changed it for the su-30

and now we cant really bug report it because it is a copy paste mistake and gaijin dosent accept datamine reports

Yes

I’m just saying there are conflicting information from different sources.

Brochure says 25300 @ 15.3m but the KnAAPO website says 25300 @ 14.7m

It’s possible that the brochure is specifying the max possible wingspan rather than the 25300 figure being at the said wingspan (I.e. with the jamming pods).

If you check the other links that I’ve posted, the UAC website also lists 25300 kg @ 14.7m

And for example in the Su-32 brochure, they specifically list the jamming pods along the missiles when they want to list the maximum speed:

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The Su-35s Brochure its the oldest form of info we have on the plane. I know that with time they change and even started to state that these number are with Khibiny.

It don’t make sense for them to measure the plane with the Pod. Them remove and add the missile/fuel to found what was the gross weight. Specially when these Pod remove the posibility to use R-73 in the outer pilons.

If the plane in game will weight 19000 tons. Then the plane should come with the Khibiny pod by default. So far gaijin hasn’t add these pod for the aircraft in game that could use them. So the 19000tons figure its off. Same with RCS. The Aircraft is suppose to have RAM coating in some area. So the Su-35s should have smaller RCS in game than other Flankers. If not, the Weight should be also be lowered. RAM weight a lot.

Boeing confirms 12

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22 might have been a typo in early stage of project. you would need to have a seriously wierd loadout to get 22 amraams

No, technically it can carry up to 24 but it is only cleared for 12 officially until they finish current integration, testing, etc. Afaik the currently in-service F-15EX’s have not been equipped with the CFT’s required to mount additional missiles.

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thats 4 quad racks (2 per wing) and 4 double CFT racks right?

Sounds right, but we will see what it ends up being cleared with ultimately. Technically I think the F-22 can carry up to 22 missiles as well if it feels like mounting the quad racks.

i heard the quad racks are only good for transporting missiles a little while back, is this just untrue or has there been a development in this area?

would be pretty nice to have 22 AMRAAM or maybe JATM on an F-22