I’m personally waiting for them to raise the br of EFT and rafales so i can chill with the su-27 and mig29g at 13.0 while they f*ck themselves at 14.3-14.7 lol
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
thats also depends on how much the flanker will bleed to get the 1c advantage, it still doesnt recover speed fast enough so there is no point if you end up at 300km/h just to point the nose if the eagle is keeping something like 600 or more, the eagle can just avoid your noose and circle around you, but im not sure, the C doesnt have the upgraded engines so it might struggle to keep some speed, and the E is overall heavier so it will bleed more speed too
yeah, i agree, tbh we should be at 15.0 already IMO, idk what gaijin is smoking, that would help a LOT of planes if the brs got decompressed
I would said its not even that of an UFO compare to the EF. That thing FM its unreal and mine its mostly stock. The Eurofighter shouldn’t fly like that because it don’t have the AMK modification… and then somehow the Rafale beat the Eurofighter in dogfights. The only thing i feel its off its how it race in the Take off. But it could be that people its running too much fuel on their planes. I have see people using Underwing fuel tank on EF and RAFALE.
Also no. TVC flankers should be other kind of monster and the Su-35s its even better than the one with canards. British EF has lost against Indian Su-30mki on WVR fight.
The F-16 is still the best 2c fighter to this day
Beats a Gripen easilly, has miles more thrust.
At the merge it pulls harder than the Typhoon and Rafale.
Hearing alot about AMK…all that inproves is AOA
Typhoon rarely pulls more than 30 degrees AOA in game.
The requirements were for the original typhoon 20-25 degrees AOA.
Typhoon is still underperforming in many areas.
Thrust, still too heavy and missing its accurate supercruise
F-22 has lost to a Typhoon and Rafale in WVR.
You can guarantee like the F-22 it won more than it lost. Su-30 isn’t close to a 22 in WVR.
These maneuvers aren’t possible ingame with the su-27S, canard flanker is another history
you can’t be serious, if that’s what you think, I’m sorry to inform you that you’re wrong, gripen, ef and rafale smokes the su27
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They dont in the one circle the Su-27SM can turn harder and has more thrust. Gripen looses energy at an alarming rate.
Add the R-73 and the Gripen struggles go and try it.
Typhoon and Rafale are closer, the 27 still has the edge with instantaneous turn.
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again, idk if you are joking or being serious, r73 do 90% of the job for the flanker cause without the r73, the gripen, ef and rafale smokes the su27 9 out of 10 times in any possible way.
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Depends on what speed you merge,
What i’m smoking? Just playing the game in a realistic battle setting not in custom battles where everyone merges like its a BFM training.
SU-27 pulls hard and can whip the nose around fast.
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i respectfully disagree, it can have the advantage initally but there’s no way current gripen loses more energy than the flanker. There’s no way it can be defeated after the su-27 misses the first opportunities, R-73 is also not an aim9x impossible to avoid even more if you have 600+ CMs… Just pre flare and you’ll be fine, after some time the sukhoi won’t have enough angle to make a decent shot and it’ll be very easy to get its ass.
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Don’t dogfight in RB, you’ll sign your own death sentence
The Gripen is underpowered now
The Flanker and it’s contemporaries have been buffed.
It’s not in a good place.
Top tier no one is carrying 600 flares
You carry more chaff
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if you are trying to win some duel merging at mach 1+ then thats just crazy, but even at that speed, if you avoid the su27 guns or r73 (by just pre flaring btw) you will beat the flanker very easily, for the su27 to -whipe the nose around- and beat the ef, the rafale or even the gripen, you gotta put full reall a pull almost all AoA that you have, and that will leave you at like 300km/h at best, so again, are u just trolling rn or what?
why don’t you put half 300 each you probably won’t use even close to that number, russian fighters have less than 100 and do just fine avoiding these missiles
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Man the gripen is a monster i really disagree with you on that point, it was the best 4th gen bfm fighter until the addition of the typhoon and rafale
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Ah, the famous Indian Air Force claims of ‘annihilating’ any and all contestants…
They’d likely make similar 12-0 kill claims if they were using MiG-21s to be honest…
None of the above detracts from a later-model Flanker being a potent adversary WVR - however I would not rely on the Indian Air Force for a balanced view of it’s capabilities.
Russian fighters dont have to use BOL pods which are far less effective they have large countermeasures.
You can drop 2-5 chaff and fool that missile…BOL pods it’s way more