Sorry. I wont trust anything that come from British source. After all the lying and pr bs they have said in the last decade… I think they still hasn’t remove the cheese line on Challenger page “never destroy by enemy”.
Yea sure. That exercise would has being like the one from the Chinese were J-11 win in WVR and got destroyed on BVR.
Fine, believe what you want. Your choice.
They arent regular CM as Russians you dont use BOL pods Gaijin has nerfed them. Search the forums and you will see.
An F-15 or Su-27 has to only drop a few puffs of chaff. A Gripen or Tornado has to drop 20+ and even then because the chaff effectiveness is so low it doesn’t fool the missile.
Didnt say everytime said it can now. A Su-27 can cause a Gripen problems. The new engines and fm
still waiting for BOL on F-15C and E
640 BOL CM + 240 internal
I can’t take seriously your discussion that somehow the Su27 is better than the Gripen because of the new engines and the slight improvement in the fm or you saying that 98 cms (48chaff/48flares) is better than 300flares/300chaffs
you are 100% doing something extremely wrong while flying the gripen
It would be nice if the Su-27SM received an additional 80 chaff alongside the 96 flares. 96 CM is quite low for top tier.
Oh, you’re trolling. Thought I smelt satire in here.
The in-game Gripen has an immensely higher specific excess power than even the over performing F-16A.
wtf you did to be permabanned from the in game chat… I got banned like 3 time in Close beta time… But never heard of permaban.
So delete your spam text in random forum threads asking for unban, it is against the rules.
Contact a game master via direct message instead.
Left panel in forum:
Then click on some name and then you will see option to send a message.
Now back to Flankers.
thx,
someone has already sent a link to the Russian forum where I wrote earlier. I thought I couldn’t write there because I needed another client
Btw there are not some plans for Kh-31A for Su-27SM and also for other types of planes which are in game (MiG-21bison, Su-24M, Su-34 and Chinese versions of J-11)?
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-vyzbroj/protizemni-rs/ch-31a-as-17-krypton-/
This type of weaponry we already have in game (but I dont know how effective it is because I dont have that).
TBH that might just be a one off. Also I wonder if they will fix some existing missile issues. I am still waiting for J11B to see how much a better radar and missiles do for a flanker.
Actually, I have found as I play with sim controls only, if you get your speeds right it will out rate the f-16C with its new engines. I tested it with my buddy after the buff as we like to fight a bunch and he used to always rip around the 2C in his 16 but now I catch him every time. Even the A model gets out rated, I’ve always like fighting in my flankers as it always took more skill to manage speed bleed and turn fights in your favor but with the new buffs it’s amazing
A bit of trolling
Iran has officially confirmed the availability of the Su-35 and the start of deliveries of the Su-57…
Reading the article is pretty funny to me cuz the first 12-0 kill ratio reported reminded me an awful lot of when the Chinese AF went against the Thai AF’s Gripens in an exercise and crushed them in WVR combat, only to get obliterated in BVR combat, which lead to China reworking its pilot training programs iirc.
It got even funnier when I got to the section where they discuss a 9:1 ratio against US F-15C’s, and read a little further and saw that the scenario was 6v18 and the F-15’s werent allowed to use AMRAAMs, along with the fact the indian pilots didnt seem too keen on commenting on their BVR performance vs the EFT’s either.
That being said, id be suprised if the Su-30MKI’s were able to score a 9:0 ratio vs EFT’s even if they were entirely relegated to WVR.
It sounds an awful lot to me like the indians have the same issue the chinese had in the past, with horrid BVR tactics and skills, but a lot more experience in WVR, which is where all of their boasts come from.
Gripen doesnt have 600 regular ones tho. BOL are the worst CM’s ingame, they have a lower intensity and last less long than even regular CM’s, but id still take 600+ BOL over 98 large most likely.
I think that foreign wargames are super unrealistic in how they make the determination that someone has scored a “kill” and oftentimes results in poor training. The side that “won” usually comes out of it with little to no training value when it is scored or biased in this way.
Some countries that had flown the Eurofighter against the Gripen C were already saying the Gripen was superior in a dogfight, and sometimes, reading documents about the comparative performance of the Eurocanards, you’ll find statements that back this up
The Gripen-E is legitimately known as the 4° gen fighter with the best sustained flight performance today, the Gripen C wasn’t far from that, although 1.7 tons lighter than the Gripen E, it had a much worse twr, Sukhois has already won and continues to win in close range combat against Gripens in exercises in Asia
The Gripen, mistakenly, earned the reputation of being a Sukhoi killer because in 2009, SAAB conducted an exercise against F-35s simulating “Su-35bms” based on what was known about the Su-35 at the time. Back then, NATO didn’t have clear information about the IRBIS-E radar and considered the Sukhoi’s operational missile to be the R-77 (even the R-77-1 wasn’t even operational at the time). In that exercise, the Gripen was equipped with Meteors and IRIS-Ts
The Gripen came out on top with a 6:1 ratio…
But with what’s been discovered since about the Su-35, it became clear that scenario was flawed. SAAB didn’t even account for the Sukhoi’s ability to carry R-37 missiles. This turned out to be so embarrassing for SAAB that it was eventually buried by European media over the years, however, you can still find articles about it in certain languages.
Here in Brazil, for instance, a serious journal called ‘Poder Aéreo’ still has records of what happened, i also remember reading about it in several well known military publications from that time across the west
Found another brother in the forums 🇧🇷
