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Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
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Did the Su-27S get a buff or something? its pretty damn good with R-27ER.
Only FM buff 2 weeks ago, nothing related to its weaponry afaik
No, AL-31FP have standart AL-31F thrust 12500/7600.
What stops Gaijin from putting TVC M1 into 30SM?
2000 kgf, not lb
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AL-41F on su-30sm They are just undergoing testing. I highly doubt that we will immediately get SM2 with al-41
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I think the R-37M is a big enough reason to go for the Su-35S after the Su-30SM.
I hope gajin add Su-30SM from russian navy to soviet/russian naval line
Russian Air Force Su-30M2 and Su-27SM3 before Su-35S, my guess
MiG-29KR, MiG-29M2, MiG-35S, Su-30M2, Su-30SM, Su-30SM2 and Su-35S equipped R-77-1
Do hardcore Flanker guys acknowledge the buffs to the Flanker have made it act kinda like a UFO?
I honestly think the current Su-27 acts like a TVC flanker in a dog fight, it doesnt lose energy (which it should) It pulls crazy AOA and it is way too fast with 12 missiles and fuel.
Thoughts? Cant see how excluding the Radar the Su-30 will improve on the current Su-27SM
Also irbis e
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still only 2 r27et damn
I don’t know what to say tbh, it follows the g charts except for supersonic speeds where it overperforms, which was already reported dozens of times but the devs refuse to touch the FM’s drag…
Regarding its bfm capabilities, the flanker was always known as the king of 1C between the 4th gen aircraft while being mid at 2C, currently ingame i don’t consider it that op besides some BS ace combat maneuvers that are possible with full controls (but those are present particularly in the canard sukhois), afaik it’s still the worst 4th gen ratefighter so if you force it 2C it should be fine with most aircraft.
R-37 will make it worth (if implemented correctly)
It has little to no relation to the Su-35S in terms of development.
how does it make it feel like a ufo? It still underperforms at low speed, and now, it decently/heavily overperforms at high speed, like a lot of other planes. Besides, until proper modeling of aoa limiters (f-16 being able to pull more than 25 aoa LOL), i think its gonna be fine. Also, the way the flanker wins the dogfight is usually because it can giga rate at around 850 kph instead of playing the one circle which I think it is a weird dynamic, but at least now it can still somewhat dogfight compared to before.
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no, because it is not a UFO, it still loses to all 4th gen planes in 1v1 without missiles, ef, f15, f16, rafale, j10, gripen, whether in 1c or 2c
Only the A variants tho, C are killable
f16c is a monster in 2c tbh, the f15c/e idk
2C yes i agree
From my experience the f15c ingame behaves very similar to the mig-29, it should defeat the flanker 2C but it would lose 1C