I didn’t cause an issue, what I said was at the time relevant and correct.
Nonsense.
Manufacturer primary source material says loaded weight is 19,710kg
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
You brought up an “irrelevant” talking point and called it out as such when I replied to your comment.
Relevant and correct? You replied to THIS.
with THIS
Sound argument, I love the use of facts and objective proof to counter what I said.
You’re a joke.
With SU30SM capability, I really doubt it will be great 14.0 material unless it does get R-77-1 with Su-27SM dual pylon loadout. Even then I doubt it will be that efficient since R-77s will still suck quite a bit and the T/W ratio isn’t the best anyways. Also 96 CM will not help u challenge AMRAAM spam. Maybe let’s wait and see how a better radar does on a flanker first, and what they do with J11B if it comes first. Really need some decompression as well.
100%, fighting those Fox3s monsters in a mig29 isn’t nice
Even F16s suffer cause AIM7Ms are useless. I really think they are stuck in an awkward spot. Decompression to 14.7 is required.
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Irony; ad hominem
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You throw around fallacies when you haven’t even engaged in the topic you started… That’s… Amazing.
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Thanks
What would be the flanker counterpart for an upgraded F-15E (APG-82V1, EPAWSS) and what would be the counterpart for the F-15EX?
Su-35S would be end of the line Flanker.
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So would be Su-35S and F-15EX same BR, probably at same time
No idea. Probably not.
If F-15EX received upgraded version of F-15A flight model then it would just be a pure upgrade to Su-35S in the base model Flanker is considered to be the starting point.
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F-15EX is F-15E with FBW and better electronics, maybe slightly lighter empty but loaded up, heavier
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There are talk about Su-35s with Su-57 avionics and engine… Dunno if is true. But i have read people talking about it.
I have my doubts. Also in some source 177s engine are pitch for all flanker and in other is for Su-75. So its hard to tell. I think its for the first option. That its why it was reveal at China.
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Maybe
The F-15EX is a strike eagle with avionics possibly better than F-22 and F-35
The Su-35s its close to the in game RAFALE they’re both from same year. And while it should be the more modern Flanker. It avionic are not close to the Su-57. Some guy the other day posted a link to a Russian blog(?). With info about it. I think even Mig35 have better avionic than Su-35s. Also isn’t the F-15EX like 10 years younger than the Su-35s?.
Yeah, but I thought latest flanker vs latest eagle?
Also the base for the F-15EX, the F-15SA, flew 2013 so sort of not that big of a gap
IF we go with that. Su-35’ are from 90’s. First Su-35 its like 92 and Su-37 its from 96?. T-10bm its from 2003. So yea still like 10 years gap.
Su-35 first flight 2007 or 8?
The radar performance though, I doubt Su35 will be able to compete with F15EX in that sense, also since that is the F22 ‘replacement’ (ironic but true), and also even with R-77M it will be hard to say if it is really an AMRAAM-D equivalent never mind AIM-260.