Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

I wouldn’t be surprised tbh

Meanwhile MiG-29 STILL doesnt get it R-73 (also Yak-141 doesnt get full armament, but lets ignore it for now)

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Lmao yeah, also top tier will be absolute dogcrap with the introduction of 5th gen as they not only will be total fantasy planes due to lack of info but also the mode will not be able to accommodate this type of vehicle, unless we want the f22 to come with aim120a and 9Ms lol

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Why is it so hard to admit you were wrong dude?

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Mig-29SMT has R-73s.
And Yak-141 has full armament.

You are not forced to play any aircraft in the game.
If you really want to play a 13.x Mig-29, they’re there for you.

more than full* didnt had any IRL

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Ah, so moving goalposts? I see, I see

Варианты_подвески_вооружения_Як-141

You sure about that? I dont see R-77, R-73, Kh-25, Kh-31, Kh-35 in game loadout options.

Maybe you have some exlusive deep-DEV version of the game, Avlis, there it all present?~

Ok, how about

And Yak-141 has full intended/planned armament

Better?

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just random pic as source? well

@BBCRF At this point, since @Gunjob gave you the sources and proved that you’re wrong, you’re doing disinformation by denying reality. That is against the rules (3.7.)

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The only thing typed was “Mig-29”, no specific model.
9.12 and 9.13 are the oldest models, the F-16A Block 1/5 of Mig-29s.
They should only have R-60Ms, just as if and when F-16A Block 5 is added it should only have AIM-9Js.
If you want the R-73 Mig-29s, they exist and more are coming.

Also a document is not a vehicle, that is a proposal, and ANY of that proposal in-game is a full loadout. It doesn’t have to nor should it be all of it.
Yak-141 would be a terrible 13.3 with R-77s & R-73s.

I see some kind of strange brochure, nothing more, it’s like the yellow press where are the charts?

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At best 13.0, same as F-4F ICE and J-8F with ARH there and IRCCM as low as 12.0 (prem Mirage)

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F-4F is under-BR’d as-is, and J-8F is inferior to the Yak-141.
Mirage F-1C’s airframe is worse than Phantom.

Hard to be “inferior” then you’re faster, have better close range missiles, have them more, have more countermeasures, digital RWR and being ARH carrier

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Yak-141 is currently 12.7, there are no AMRAAM carriers at 12.7.

You shouldn’t move goalposts, especially with misinfo.

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Smt is too much of a boat to be fun

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Moving goalpost against, Alvis? Nono, get back, tell me HOW

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9.13 and 9.12 historically had r73s, in that Sense the 27er is far more controversial. Those limited to r60 were monkey models exported to 3rd world countries like Iraq.

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Btw we are destroying the thread which is dedicated to the flanker