M2 would be DoA. Pretty much the only decent Su30 choice to be added after the F15E’s introduction is the SM
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
uh huh, sure buddy
The devs literally said that they are comfortable with the plane’s performance as it is following the g charts on the reports that were previously made here by the community.
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It was that the devs acknowledged that there was a deviation of about 0.4g of underperformance but they think that 0.4g is close enough, and they don’t see the need for them to fine-tune it. In the meantime, F-15A and F-16A are overperforming, the eurocanards will likely overperform because of lack of documentation, so this exacerbates the problem.
To conclude, Su-27 is indeed underperforming, but not by an incredibly large amount. But a lot of other aircraft are overperforming so it makes the problem seem bigger than it is.
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I’d say the most egregious would be F-16A Block 10 and Gripen. The J-10 seems correct to data that I’ve
found regarding instantaneous turn but is probably overperforming slightly in sustained turn. The Gripen can currently outrate the F-16 including the Block 10 which is pretty ridiculous. The Gripen has a much lower thrust-to-weight ratio compared to the F-16 and J-10, and plus the Gripen isn’t using a far-coupled canard like the Eurofighter which would be more ideal for energy retention.
I’m not sure about the specifics for F-15A, but I think it is overperforming in instantaneous turn.
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I think ur mostly correct but the fact that the su27 can almost supercruise ingame feels kinda weird to me, i still think its engines are overperforming and that it has too much drag like Gio pointed out
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It’s the non-static thrust that is overperforming imo when in flight, on the ground it seems accurate.
I wonder what source/modeling method Gaijin went for to calculate engine thrust at different speeds and altitude.
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Likely this
Finger,Sky,ceiling
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Theres some information for eurofighter with weaker engines
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Kinda suprised nobodies mentionned the missing FAB-3000 with UMPK kit for the Su-34.
Sure it woulsnt be any good, and its super ugly, but its definitly got “meme weapon” written all over it, and there are pictures of it being dropped (which I cannot post due to forum rules)
Seems like itd be easy enough to get added if somebody wanted it ingame enough.
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Maybe that will come with the Su-34M/NVO
War Thunder cannot do automatic thrust vectoring at this time, and there’s no indication they’re working on it.
On top of that, thrust vectoring reduces sustained dogfight capability, and has no impact on high-speed maneuvers.
F-15JM: 2019.
I’d be 100% in favor of it but considering they denied the meme grom-1 i don’t think they would add those
Man, look a this… While mediocre in Air RB these russian jets are absolute monsters in ground battles:
I’m glad i quitted playing tanks a long time ago lol
“cannot do automatic thrust vectoring at this time” and you have the Devs word on that right? Not saying it is coming but you don’t know as well, if it is…no one does until we get blogs.
I also never said TVC is active at High speed. What I’ve see is people trying to down play how much of a + TVC is in close with HMS and HOB missiles…especially once we get stronger IRCCM missiles, even with the R73 we have right now it would give a flanker that has a chance in close vs RF and EFT. I’m not saying the 30SM will out gun fight a Euro Fighter and never have.
This guy was an F18 pilot who go to dogfight with the Malaysian Su-30 watch 12:22 to 12:40 to see how TVC when used in an effective way can absolutely get you to nose on for a fox 2 shot! He also says that he has lost to the Su-30 in these kind of fights as well.
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Grom-1’s were less of a meme than ppl thought. You could sling 6 off the runway basicly and kill any base on any map ingame. It was basically the perfect weapon for bots to use to farm as theyd effectively never be in danger while farming.
This would have had a double negative effect, being good for bots would also flood REDFOR teams with bots contributing little to their teams.
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You can still do that with the grom-2 tho… Those can glide for a couple dozen kilometers, It’s just not as fast as the grom-1 and you need to risk yourself a bit more
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I can only see the headlights of the vehicles so probably not even NV