Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Excuse my ignorance, but are the low speed manueverability complaints of su30 in combination with the aoa limiter off? Or is it just the flight model itself

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aoa limiter off/ manual control for sim
if you get into a slow speed dogfight you need to turn the aoa limiter off because otherwise your nose would just drop down

Unsure if this has been mentioned already, but I noticed the Su-30 when carrying R-27s on the inner wing stations uses APU-470 instead of AKU-470 ejector launcher so I opted to make a report on visual model.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pqNDhfZCwkzE

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How heavy is su-35s?

around 18 and 19 tons. my guess its 18600ish.

It is more like 19.5.

Sukhoi claims 25,300kg in “normal takeoff weight” with 2x R-77 and 2x R-73. Assuming that is a fuel percentage of 60% (internal is 8000kg), you get 25,300 - 4,800 = 20,500 kg empty with the aforementioned ordnance.
RVV-AE is 175kg x 2 = 350 kg. R-73 is 105kg x 2 = 210kg.
20,500 - (350 + 210) = 19,940 kg.

Of course to get the true empty weight you subtract oils, ammo, pilot, some other stuff. We can safely assume it is 19.5 tons or so.

Of course this is generous, assuming 60% instead of 50% fuel load.

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Not that it would matter a ton, but Su-35’s Irbis-E can guide two R-27ERs simultaneously.

1- https://web.archive.org/web/20080327051343/http://www.niip.ru/main.php?page=library_sky19

2- https://web.archive.org/web/20090304194610/http://www.niip.ru/main.php?page=library_sky17

Primary source BTW (It’s the manufacturer)

No. Maximum remove double pylons (-2 R-77-1)

Yeah, it still gets inner pylons. Although how many R-77-1 will that be with full KH38s?

4 (2 on outer wings and 2 between engines)

SO max will be like 4 * R77-1, 2 * R73, 6 * KH38s, and then 1 * grom or 1500kg?

Where do you all get these numbers from

Su-27/33/30 can take around 9400-9700 kg internal

Su-35 takes around 11300-11500

Without Grom-1 or 1500kg if you to take away the double rack

That would be 6 R-77-1s then, just KH38s are fine, although I do like a glide bomb into a capturing spot.

Not sure what other Flankers can, but Su-35 can carry 2x2000L tanks

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Vert stab fuel tanks?

What a damn long mission

No

image literally shows fuel tanks in the vertical stabilizers, wdym no

These are not vertical stabilizers, but side beams.