Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

It does the problem is team size and late to mid game a Su-30 just dumping loads of missiles at a single target.

F-15s do it too. I struggle to see how when we come to F-15EX and Su-35 how we are going to balance the game for Typhoons, Gripens etc

My fear is we increase missile quality.
R-77M, Aim120C5

And maybe new IIR missiles

Meteor missiles, Typhoons will do perfectly fine at minimum

30MKK has no TVC afaik, but that’s the KnAAPO Su-30 not the Irkut one

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They couldnt make Meteors work on the map sizes we have game needs to change a lot

Unfortunately it is what it is and nothing can be done about it, it’ll only get worse in that sense (missile spam). That’s why i prefer to not go beyond 90s tech, i find early 4th gen aicraft combat more interesting.

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I do enjoy the Tornado least the Radar works ha ha

Unfortunately it also has to do with Airframe sizes. Do understand the likes of the F-15E and Su-27 family are heavy multiroles in the sense and this ofc mean they’re also massive, and being massive means more hard points and therefore pylons

sure just give the su35 6xr37m

It’s better to fly out the su35s with 4 r37ms and 4 r77s, 2 of the r37ms would take away the double r77 pylon

the su35 can carry 4xr37m + 8 xr77-1 + 2xr73 or 6xr37m+4xr77-1+2xr73

Yeah I meant the double pylons between the engines that can also take the r37s

Do you guys know if there is a report open about the TVC being always on?

So the next step should be the SU-30SM2 or the Su-35, right?

27sm2 is also an option.

Or 27SM3 (considering it might be more different from current in-game SM1)

isint sm3 just su-35 standard?

There’s also the mig29m which would have a pretty good climb rate, radar and r77s, but judging how things are going yeah they might just add the SM2 and then the 35.

For the Eurofighter there’s always that proposed 14 Missile loadout that was shown in a render once. Gaijin could always fall back to that one if they feel it’s necessary

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Thing i have read not specific for Flanker. Its that TVC should always being ON. the FCS should control what angle TVC use. And its usually a lot more beneficial to use both TVC and control surface. Than just control surface alone. So yea a TVC plane has Better ITR and STR than a non TVC plane.

Spoiler

tvc

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Problem is it’s not official sources and as of yet no one has seen the pylons for it.
There is also kind of no need with missiles like Meteor having a high PK.

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