The only improvement that came with the engines is the engines. Also you shouldn’t bring up MiG-9 in the Su-27 thread either.
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
Nice.
On the topic of Su-30SM’s multirole capability, what sort of air to ground capability will the aircraft have? Can it equip targeting pod?
Iam not sure but it is probably able to carry the kh38
I found this image floating around referring to the loadout of the Su-30MK, but unsure how accurate it is because the drawing seems to show an early Su-27 with the center IRST
There’s also this:
Targeting pod capability would also be great (according to this thread, it may have capability for Saspan-E?), and maybe USSR tree will get its first top tier multirole with all the bells and whistles.
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Depends on which one, I really doubt it gets much better than Su34, cause that thing is already destructive enough, even Su25SM3 is insanely good. I really don’t think it changes that much in GRB, neither in ARB as it will come with all the other AESA planes, as well as the fact that R77 will still suck the same.
I use CAS a lot in GRB, so more multirole aircraft being capable of doing more is welcome.
Currently, USSR top tier aircraft is usually missing one or more features that’s standard in Western aircraft, such as thermals targeting pod, high CM count, avionic capability, etc on an airframe that can dogfight well.
I love the Su-34 and I use the Kh-38s as an ad hoc targeting pod but I find myself getting intercepted and losing out to F-16s, Gripens, Rafales, EFs, and more because it’s… obviously a strike aircraft. I can spawn in a Mig-29SMT or Su-27SM as a multirole but then I’d lose out on my ordinance and visual capabilities against ground targets. Meanwhile, other top tier Western aircraft basically can get decent x4-6 A2G missiles, be able to stand on its own in a dogfight, come with a great targeting pod, great avionics, and still have good A2A missiles to boot… in one single package.
It’d be nice if something came along for USSR tree that basically had everything in one, to which I’m hoping the Su-30SM will fill that hole.
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I mean, we already had MiG-29SMT and Su-27SM with Kh-29TD
See: with all the bells and whistles.
Western fighter aircraft the past year or so have had much more capability to multirole compared to USSR top tier for quite some time while retaining a very capable FM/avionics/payload/etc. The only thing I’ve seen on Soviet/Russian fighter aircraft that’s just about better is… range (which also isn’t usable at night because the missiles are TV seeker) on their A2G missiles and that’s about it.
We can talk about the Su-34 but I consider that to be more of a strike aircraft than a fighter, and it lacks some of the nicer fighter features like a targeting pod, HMD, FM, etc to make it easily capable of fending off for itself against other fighters.
Like I said, it would be nice if the Su-30SM had basically the equivalent of, say an F-16C or a Gripen in terms of multirole, but I’m not sure how capable it would be hence why I was asking what it could theoretically get.
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Supposedly that’s the su-30sm loadout, it can carry good stuff
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some people say that “multirole” is a marketing-focused definition, and that “fighter-bomber” is more accurate. in that sense, USSR tech tree already has at least one multirole jet.
What optical pods can the Su-30SM carry?
One thing they need to fix is the totally fake engine SFC (make it dynamic) on all jets. If they fix it, people will need to take full internal to even have 5 minutes play time.
Su-30sm basically confirmed together with the f18
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IDK for sure, lemme research a bit i’ll try to find something about it
So my hopes are for March, don’t know about y’all
Big fan of the Su-30MKI. Even India has a better Su-27 derivative than Russia.
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Would this be a Su-30SM or is this a different variant?
Given if it could carry x6 A2A missiles (#5-8 pylon) and x5 Kh-29TD or TE (#3, 4, 10-12 pylon) with a Damocles TGP (#9 pylon), it would make for a very capable platform for doing both CAS/CAP on level with something like current western aircraft ingame.
I wonder if it can carry UMPK equipped FABs