i think they will add the variant with L-150 , i dont think f15E will outrun r27ea’s , at those altitudes r27ea would go hypersonic + much more range than r27er as the arh seeker head has a better battery life. iirc r27a used r77’s seeker head , so its battery life would increase from 60Sec (r27er) - > 90 sec (r77).
if they give r27ea to su34/27sm/smt then it would definitely make a change. this may make air rb/sim more balanced or it may make it worse im not sure. su-33 can carry 8xr27er so r8xr27ea + 4x r73
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
In BVR? Oh yes they will. The BVR F-15E’s are closing within the MAR.
I don’t think Gaijin is going to add the 27EA regardless. The Su-33 is going to either be completely DOA or a new premium grinder. We need one of the Su-30’s to compete with stuff like the Eurofighter and Rafale. Either one of the Su-30 variants has yet to be revealed or Russia is just going to have to wait for yet another update before it can hope to fight on level footing.
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It just means he is visible anywhere on the map and is fending people from more angles. His radar cannot notch 85 degrees while simultaneously guiding ordnance like other aircraft. All I have to do to beat him is make him waste all of his ordnance while flying low and then fly up at him with a PL-12 locked and loaded on the J-10 or the R-77 on a MiG-29SMT.
An aircraft with R-27EA would have the proper time to target and reach in vertical launch to truly smoke a F-15, especially more capable when launching R-27ET without him knowing. He can’t look directly underneath him and flying at high alts he won’t be able to really stop anyone skimming from getting there unless he stays clear of the battle area and lets his team get demolished while he’s enjoying his leisure time in the upper alts.
People also assume the R-27EA to perform as shown based on giving the current R-27ER an active seeker. If they fix the severe underperformance of this missile at altitudes above 5km you may see a 25% decrease in time to target for certain scenarios or a similar increase in maximum range in head-on. I think it would be warranted given the fact that people are blowing the F-15E’s capabilities wayyyyyy out of proportion.
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Is the Su-30 actually that much better than the standard Su-27? Isn’t it also just heavier with similar thrust?
I’m still very surprised about EFT and Rafale coming so soon, they are an enormous step up in flight performance if they model them correctly.
F-15E is currently still overperforming, if it will every be brought back to reality it will be slower than F-15C at altitude. Meanwhile unless they butcher their flight model (which would be really sad) EFT and Rafale are quite a bit superior.
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Gaijin probably is going to nerf either the armament or flight performance of EFT and Rafale, knowing how they operate. I wouldn’t be too worried about them.
As for Russia idk, Su-30SM seems a bit early to add rn. I’m not sure which Flanker variant can be considered (Su-27SM3 maybe?)
I am worried because I want them to be added with correct FM, not with some gimped performance because they are adding them without counters.
Flankers wise the Su-27M (also called Su-35) would be the best bet imho.
Still an advanced MiG-29 variant (M or K) would be better suited to the meta. I still don’t get why tf most people wish for the Su-30. Ground players already have the Su-34, and on air i’d be surprised if the Su-30 is a full step up from current stuff.
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Because FM is better, and it will also fit better into the balance with 6 Kh-29 against NATO SAMs
Lol
How is FM better? Same engine thrust, higher weight, canards will only help in first turn.
Also in my limited understanding of ground related stuff, isn’t the kh-38 much better than the Kh-29? Why would you fly the su-30 instead of the Su-34 for cas?
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The reason why people want something like the Su-30SM is it has a PESA radar, HMS/HMD more powerful engines that are thrust vectoring, lighter then the Su34! It 100% out preforms the Flankers we have atm in every way.
This is what RU honestly should get to go up against the Euro Fighter and Rafale…they will need it :/
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IMHO, the “balance” in your mouth has a bit of a dark humor in front of Panstir-S and the six KH38MTs.
We are not going to get the Su-30SM any time soon lol, it’s a plane from 2011.
Su-27M and MiG-29M both significantly outperform current flankers and fulcrums without being extremely recent and without adding stuff like TVC that would be a pain to mode right.
Also since the Su-30sm is so modern it would be implemented with straight up fantasy FM and avionics
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22.5t = 18.8t? Yes?
The Kh-38 is currently too much of a redundant missile because it can easily destroy all targets from afar, and the Kh-29 fits better into the balance because you won’t be able to destroy targets from such long distances
Dude, the Kh-38s are way too redundant missiles, and 90% of AA players can’t destroy missiles.
I would prefer to get an excellent FM for a flanker instead of a Su-34 with a Kh-38
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I’m totally behind you when it comes to getting better FM for the flankers, because I play both the USSR and China :) As for the KH38MT, I think the KH29TD will be more balanced than him.
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Dude, that’s what I was going to say. The Kh-38 is too strong against NATO SAMs, so the Kh-29 would be more balanced against them.
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To be honest, I would prefer to replace the J-30B with the Su-10MKK, because the gaijin does not seem to be making China’s own air-to-surface missiles so quickly, and the weapons of the Su-30MKK are ready-made, I really want a qualified CAS :(
You mean like the fantasy flight model the Flankers have right now that I think people have made bugs reports on???
Also isn’t the Su-27M the test demonstrator for the Su-35! The 27M would have Thrust Vectoring!
“a new aircraft was required to act as a counter to the latest F-16 variants and new Eurocanard fighters such as the Typhoon, Rafale, and Gripen. RSK MiG decided to restart development of their MiG-29SMT (9.17) from the mid-90s, and presented the idea of a MiG-29 modernized for the 21st century to the Russian government.”
That’s from the War Thunder Wiki on the 29SMT…date has NOTHING to do with when an aircraft gets implemented in the game…if it did we would have been fighting Euro Fighters already!
full send the 30SM…not saying we are going to get it but would stand a chance if it gets added
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