Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

tbh, ive seen the actual performance numbers of EFT with its 82kN (so lower TWR)engines and it doesnt need any buffs to be nutts, itll crush everything currently in-game. Its not even close. I fully understand why gaijin hasnt added it yet.

In basically all delta canards canard main use is to increase energy over wings (EFT) included, which basically counters the massive induced drag delta wings normal have. The trade off for this thought is that they create a certain amount of negative lift.

Yep, EFT is an absolute rocket ship airframe wise.

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We need s300 for balanz.



And add anti radiation missiles as premium for easy cash

S-300 is modelled already, im surprised it wasnt in the trailer.

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Not quite sure how the soviet/Russian fighters are gonna compete tbh. Following the fall of the soviet uniion, tech development seems to have fallen off pretty hard. IIR seekers werent really a thing until very recently with the R-74M2 iirc, the R-77-1 just doesnt really keep up with the BLUFOR MRAAM’s, the radars are subpar (ive heard an anecdote that the chinese initially thought the Su-35’s radar was an export model because it performed below their expectations, theres also the famous claim of the Rafale being able to completely brick the Su-35’s radar in egyptian tests). The thrust vectoring will likely help, tho idk if itll make up the difference, and the chinese will just have the superior version of russian jets. I’m not even sure if most/any russian jets get anything more than the HMCS from the original MiG-29/Su-27… They do get the axehead tho, which is all things considered, allegedly quite scary, that might be their only saving grace, but doesnt really fit current WT maps…

There are still the late 90s original soviet pre production (they are too finished to be called prototypes) aircraft that were supposed to be the counterpart to F-16C and F-15C.
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They (MiG-29M, Su-27M, MiG-31M if it ever comes) are quite a bit more capable than what we currently have in game.

After that idk, I am not familiar with post soviet aircraft

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Imo the Su-35 and su30sm2 with Irbis e might be able to deal with their western 4th gen counterparts which do not have super low RCS, things will look grim when 5th gen get introduced tho.

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The Egyptian Rafale tests against the Su-35 are complete nonsense

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Like I said, the Su-35 allegedly gets straight up bricked by a rafale’s EW. Like, unusable. Im not sure if it had the Irbis E in the egyptian tests, nor am i sure if the claims are true, just like im not sure if the claims the chinese didnt like the radar are true either. I think itll be fine in-game, and gaijin will likely massage it in some way to make it work regardless, I just dont see much that the russian jets will be able to actually have an advantage in vs western counterparts, nor the chinese ones tbh, though theyll never have to face chinese jets.

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Yes, I agree.People still continue to believe in a fictional world

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They’re mad I pointed out the rage bait and now the people who proclaim to have me blocked are spam reporting my comments. Hilarious.

There is this, of course there are other issues with the FM as well that we need to figure out. Basic dimensional data for the airframe is incorrect as BBCRF has shown us.

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The Flanker’s flight model is an unquestionable error, and I don’t know why there was a quarrel over it, let alone why anyone would want to stop the effort to fix the Flanker. Is it because it affects his ability to play the game? That’s all? It’s too selfish.

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Really? I’d love to see this.

That is just incorrect? Lmao

They’d need to fix everything across the board to fix the flankers since it’s just broken across the board no matter how you look at it.

It has terrible situational awareness since its radar scan pattern is wrong and takes it something like 8 seconds to complete a scan. Its BVR capabilities are bottom tier since they don’t model the drag on supersonic R-77’s properly. The missiles only have any kind of edge over their opponents at close ranges, but it has a flight model that’s so gimped that it DESPERATELY wants to avoid close range encounters. It’s just pathetic and I’m surprised that gaijin has gone so long doing nothing about any of it. It’s just a sick joke. I can fly the flanker and make a supersonic launch of an R-77 rear aspect at a target 10km away from me and the missile will fall out of the air before it can catch the target. Then I can fly the harrier and just roll my face on the keyboard and slap someone several km straight above me while I’m hovering and flying slightly backwards on the deck for the “can’t lock a stationary harrier” memes. And yet the significantly more potent harrier has a much lower BR for some reason.

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The SU-34 SHOULD fix the BVR component of the flankers

It will have a better radar, which will certainly help with the problem of the plane being blind relative to its opponents. However it won’t fix the R-77, and R-27ER’s aren’t serious competitors against spamraams. And “27ER stealth launchers” are a bad meme.

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Can you post a replay of this if it happens? I need some comedy to watch.

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Do you know under which tree version the SU-34 will fall under, will it come after the SM3 or will it come after the SU-24 branch?