Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Forgot about that

Ah, sorry I wasn’t specific. I meant in terms of using a control surface as an airbrake. Though in the case of grid fins it doesn’t equate.

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how much longer are we going to deal with the blatantly underperforming fm

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i could put the space shuttle in 90* aoa pull and not bleed as much as my flanker under 500mph

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Mig29 is worse too…

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Can you make list for F-16 too ?

There’s a guy working on reporting the mig29, let’s see how it goes. I believe both the fulcrum and the su27 suffer from similar issues regarding drag…

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Now that USA is dominating bvr i think they’ll do something, but it could take a week, a month, a year…

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Thanks, it was getting crazy in here.

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Only think I really wanted from it was its SAPSAN-E tgp, but that seems just as unlikely as a working FM now.

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uh oh what happened here

@Necronomica
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU25079U1/en

What is this and why am i tagged?

Dual use of lattice handlebars as control device and airbrake as well as method of unfolding on the rail it seems

Grid Fins AirBrake

LATTICE WINGS COMBINING FUNCTIONS OF STABILIZERS AND BRAKE SHIELDS

Well yes, i know that it can be designed that way. We were discussing if the specific ones on falcon 9 were designed that way or not.

and it seems the paper is on dynamic angle on the longitude axis as a means for temporarily turning it into an airbrake, as far as i know the falcon 9 can’t angle their fins on that axis dynamically, only rotate them around a different axis on a set point on the first longitude axis.