Only 6 arh hardpoints will really hurt it and only PL-15s, PL-12s iirc, no PL-17 depending on its br placement could be good or bad and just be don’t have high expectations for anything.
I’m quite confident it will fly just like the SM2, so not a turbo FM but still pretty decent.
Reviewing the drag profile would be nice to see if it can squeeze out a tiny bit more acceleration, but I don’t exactly trust the lazy ass devs to do this.
Unfortunately, once again the SM2 robbed the hype out of the Su35 by having the AL-41’s.
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Yeah and according to some people on the forums, the maneuverability of the TVC Flankers is… not up to par.
Personally I’m keen to agree with them, they feel very boat-ish, even when using TVC.
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It very much worries me for how Gaijin will model the Su-57.
Can you elaborate about the tvc not being up to par?
In the sino flanker forum thread there’s a lot more info on the BG/H, some early ones had the WS10A but the WS10B is standard, in particular the WS-10B series 3
Still not as light as the J11D but a lot of the research from that went to the BG/H
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I mean, you’ve seen what Su-35S can do on airshows. And even with min fuel on SM2 you’d probably never do something like that in War Thunder. Moreover if you consider that despite all our “Russian Bias witness” people say, jets don’t run min fuel on airshows, it’s stupidly dangerous if anything goes wrong
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It just feels very sluggish.
Sometimes it feels like all the momentum I’ve built up just vanishes when I give it the slightest bit of rudder.
I dunno, maybe it’s just the Instructor, but trying to do a Kvochurs bell in the Su-30SM felt impossible.
Even in the SM2 it refuses to complete the turn smoothly, you can see the Rudders acting a fool, and the plane just stops rotating at some points.
Here is Su-30SM on an airshow, with good old AL-31FPs. (interesting thing is that announcer says that it is around 2 tons heavier than Su-27, but obviously it’s not very thrustworthy source)
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Oh ye, the tvc looks a lot more controllable in the airshow footage compared to in game, can’t tell if they’re bleeding the same amount of speed though when not in aoa mode.
I think I know one of the reasons
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I literally double-triple checked to make sure it was min fuel.
lemme try again.
to be honest, I dont even remember the last time I lost a dogfight using the SM2, its a pretty impressive aircraft, considering its weight and size, I also like to dog at higher altitudes so I can use TVC more freely, as the altitude increases, the flanker will have more of an advantage
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eurocanards might have better acceleration and top speed, but they struggle to maintain energy, even at sea level. Gripen E is less maneuverable than the Gripen C, so it is no longer a problem for most flankers
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Even on min fuel the Rudder is still kicking, and the plane slows down mid turn.
The Flankers, esp the TVC ones also bleed a lotttt of speed, on the SM/MKM and SM2 they also struggle to gain their speed back (much less so on the SM2).
Unfortunately the SM2’s main advantage over other aircraft at top tier (in terms of dueling) is low speed dogfighting with TVC, it loses a 2C to most planes, and it is pretty good in a 1C, assuming you can hit your shot using TVC, since if you miss then you’re nearly guaranteed to be out of speed.
I dunno, I love the Flankers and I’ve watched a lot of footage of them, it baffles me that in game their only strength in a dogfight it low speed ITR and sitting on their engines.
try tapping rhythmically on the surface you’re aiming for
I’ve learned to use tvc way better like this, instead of just holding down a key 100% of the time until the plane points where I want
I mean, it’s a great advice, but i think you also can see a problem with this method existing at all.
explain further