Ah thought the Su-37 airframe was the only one that had the N011M
Unknown. T-10M program switched to PESA version of bars relatively quickly, ther is no actual data on N011 performance available, outside of western “educated guesses”.
Flanker wise current SM2 is my favorite while 37 takes second place.
As for MIG section new addition of 9.41KR became my favorite, sorry 9.15M I don’t wanna play with you anymore.
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I looked at BARS-29 after you mentioned, man wish Russia had budget to put that radar to their MIG’s.
Imagine deploying our 9.41 with that radar plus R-77-1, would’ve been amazing.
All mogged by the MiG-31 but gaijin is not ready for that one
31 is the father of all Flankers and MIGS, dont think he mogs his children.
i don’t think so, i need to check exact years to be sure, but iirc N011M was proposed and tested while T-10M program was still in development
T-10M-12 was the airfame used for N011M testing, N011M was installed in 1996. T-10M-8 also was designated for such tests but most of the work was on T-10M-12
When it comes to T-10M-11, actually there is no hard evidence of N011M installed on it
there is a photo of T-10M-11 N-011M installed, so it also had it
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this is probably the only publically available photos of mechanical Bars radar from A. Fomin Su-27 book (thank you @kizvy for telling me about this one)
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Gaijin give me Su-27M with N011M and Al-41.
It’ll be more like the Su-30SM2 than the Su-30SM2 is in game.
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Ok I see
Does it say anything about aziumuth/elevation?
it does, 180 degrees for both, which is pretty wild
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so, from Fomin book:
detection of air targets of “Fighter” type - 160-200km
detection of large air targets - up to 400km
180 degrees of gimbal both for azimuth and elevation
tracking of up to 24 air targets simultaneously and attacking up to 8 targets
N011 weighs around 650 kilos and it was one of the reasons why Su-27M recieved canards - to maintain required balance in pitch axis.
But this is very optimistic numbers i’d say, especially if you take into consideration western sources that claim that N011 was not able to get more than 4 DL channels, and the fact that Su-30MKM (and probably MKI) have N011M with only 4 DL channels as well. There is a possibility ofc, that western info is not correct and MKI/MKM recieved downgraded version of N011M (which is possible tbh, USSR/Russia never offer same hardware for export and domestic use) but i tend to believe that numbers from Fomin book are projected values and not ones that were actually achieved during testing.
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if we were to combine all Su27m into one airframe. what would it be ?
i can already guess that al41 and N011 is included in the list.
i would actually exclude AL-41 because it was installed for engine tests. But the shape of Su-27M in my opinion would be:
N011M radar with 4 DL channels, because it was the final choice before program was completely shut down
Possible N012 rear looking radar (there are no photos of it, but it was planned for Su-27M and some of the prototypes had rear part of the tail boom painted with radiotransparent paint)
AL-31F engines
Mak-F MAW sensor in upper hemisphere
OLS-27K 46Sh (Su-35 ads offered 52Sh but for Su-27M Fomin books explicitly states 46Sh as an IRST of choice)
up to 10 R-77 missiles. up to 8 R-27ERs, up to 2 R-27ET, up to 6 R-73s
cockpit with 3 MFDs
L-150 RWR
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An being not capable of existing within our realm. The sheer amount of mass being put at the same time in the same place would cause anomalies in our reality, probably leading to a matter collapse, resulting in a black hole.
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its possible since this image says that its done but a su27m
ai upscale
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problem is modelling it in War Thunder. Iirc, P-51s should have basic rear looking radar that warns pilot if something is on his tail but this is still not implemented
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we can never have something good with gaijin anyway. that’s to be expected
Here’s another pic of what looks like a PESA on a T-10M.
I thought they used Al-31FMs? Or was that just planned and scrapped.