Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

Here’s what I like about Su-35 visually:

  • The anti-glare paint around the canopy (which older Su-27 didn’t have I think).

  • Redesigned tail

  • Pointier radome (it needs to be pointy, pointy is scary).

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@kizvy I think you might have posted about this before but I’m unsure.

Does the R-37M use the same seekerhead as the BUK M3 missile?

Not even close brother.

Two seater Su-30 with canards is the best looking Su-27, only beaten by Su-57.

Wait the SM2 is not supposed to have the AL41? I understand the radar may be incorrect but what’s wrong with the power plant

From what I understand only testbeds flew with AL-41’s but not serial ones.

But for gaijin a testbed was enough.

still in test phase, not in production

So currently the majority of the SM2s still use the AL31 found on the SM? And it doesn’t have the upgraded radar? Or is it a different upgraded radar over the SM?

Maybe it’s just me but it’s a bit confusing as every other source online says it’s own thing

Al-41 is fine by gaijin rules

IRBIS is just made up and shouldnt be on the 30SM2

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Pretty much.

And as Ron said the radar is incorrect, the current SM2’s reportedly use a BARS that has extended range, and that can utilize R-37M’s.

All that makes me wonder why they even decided to add the SM2 at all, and not just wait for the Su35s

Lazyness to not model somenthing entirely new…gaijin modus operandi is “dont do unless you cant escape it”…

Don’t worry, it’s ok to be wrong, we still accept you in our Flanker family

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My theory is still that it was a direct response to the MKM.

It was an easy addition for gaijin, low effort model (already present in game), just had to pump the engine stats.

They likely had the radar model in the works for the Su-35, and to further prove the un-readiness of the SM2, HUD was wrong for an entire update, and the correct countermeasures are still missing.

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Yeah…if theres no decent info the thing gaijin shouldnt just add it…like the J15"T"…just unrelease it…

Well, as mentioned - cost cut,.it cheaper to make a “clone”, but also, I imagine, since everyone is getting ESA jet - Russia should get one, but Su-35S wasn’t ready, so… a compromise is made with just enough vagueness behind to justify presence or lack of some elements, depending on how ready Su-35S… and how much WestFor and stats are crying for nerf
(Plus, in the future, only 30SM2 can carry R-37M (in contrary to regular Su-30SM). Wouldn’t be surprised if it also can be (on technicality/educated guess) the carrier for R-77M, outside of Su-35 and Su-57)

What is the J15T missing? Becides more modern aams and other tech not in game yet? Heard the radar was wrong but that’s all I think

Does anyone know what this line, arrow and the smaller line represent on the HUD of the MKK/MK2 etc

Ok update me and a friend think its somehow related to stall speed?

isnt that for the missile range ?
no escape zone i think ?

To my understanding the cockpit is incorrect and the WS-10s might be underperforming (not sure).

Other than that, a lot is wrong with most Chinese planes, The J-15T radar is just copied out of another plane. Which kind of makes sense since we have like 0 info on the J-15T’s AESA.

But you would probably find better answers in the Chinese Flanker Thread

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