Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

Figures I can find say 25-30 are you included models made for export?

give a min, goerge from uac posted about it

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Large Display Cockpit screen for Eurofighter Typhoon

You can see the difference in quality, not to say that the Su-57 systems are bad.

there really isnt any major difference other than sheer size of the screen. the Su-57 display looks like they put all or almost all of the symbols available on it to show it to public and customers

at this post, goerge mention current 40 su-57, no mentioning T-50 who will add up to around 50-60 planes.

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He was talking about T-10M seriers called Su-35. On few of them were mounted L082 Mak system. Production aircrafts didn’t have it.

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Ngl the estimates are all over the place it’s really hard to quote the number of combat ready su-57s but we do know they been active in Ukraine because they have been detected but no firing solution was able to be made on them(almost though)

Should also know my source is Ukrainian telegram so it’s only secondary source

This’ll probably be something that gaijin does eventually anyways, but does anyone have pictures of the Su-35/SM2 HUD when they’re doing SEAD missions?

Wonder if its worth bug reporting missing things on the HUD to make doing SEAD a bit easier in sim when the update releases. Haven’t had much time to look for myself, apart from having this singular image from quite a while ago.

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Yes i gonna post here in our topic

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If you have a source on this, I’d like to see.

Not just to “errm, source?” but because info on N011 is very sparse. And from what I’ve seen it was generally considered good, but the PESA variant was preferred.

Also don’t call it BARS 1st gen, just call it Mechanical Bars.

Su-24 has had MAWS since the 80s.
There was also a MAWS System on the Su-35s from the 90s. At least one of them.
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Su-57 has MAWS and ECM, what are you talking about?

Perhaps you would like to break that down then? To my understanding the signal processing and sensor fusion is quite good on things like Su-35S and Su-57.

As for stealth, we could have a longggggg debate on that.

there was F-111’s AN/AAR-34 MAWS which was around since at least mid/early 70’s

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That’s true, however, He said that the first Russian plane to feature MAWS was the Su-35S, which is verifiably untrue.

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Did someone suggest the Su-57 has no form of MAWS despite being the first production fighter to feature an advanced DIRCM system?

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From Iuque13

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The world would be much different if the Soviet Union had not collapsed. The Russian economy was incapable of continuing the same development pace of fighters as the far West. It only took GB 30+ years to put their first proper 4th gen into service with capabilities that would have made it relevant only in the 90s.
It is just now starting to equip what is now standard for every self respecting modern air force… AESA. So I would say the Russians are doing quite well.

The Eurofighter was designed to beat a future Russian fighter threat, but took so long to come to service in full form that the Russian threat learned from it and were redesigned to counter it… hilarious.

Anyway, Luque13 made an absurd comment. Complete nonsense.

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Yes the Su-57 is the starting point of Russian aircraft having protection systems. So no I did not suggest Su-57 does not have one

MAWS isn’t a protection system?
Khibiny isn’t a protection system?

There are levels. MAWs tells the pilot a missile has been launched. So while it is a protection system.
It is only part of the system.

Eurodass uses all of the aircrafts sensors to determine the threat, respond to it with the correct CMs and plot an escape vector. The Rafale takes it further with actually using the RWR to target the threat. This is what I mean comparatively.

Of course economic collapse had set Russian development back.

As you rightfully said Europes imvestment into IRST systems was to directly counter the predicted proliferation of Russian stealth airframes.

so now we are making up our own definitions

and i would like to have your sources since you seem to know better how the datafusion and defensive suite on russian fighters work than anyone else

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