Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

There is actually a difference, but it seems to be extremely minor. @ron_23 i tested clean wing MiG-29SMT with min and full fuel (infinite fuell on) at around 1k of altitude (i just kept it level, but it climbed on its own due to speed) and got 1495kph for min fuel and 1492kph for full fuel

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Makes sense, thank you

you can use this camera to prevent that from happening, since you actually get a working velocity vector there
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well iam asuming that you used afterburner for that bc otherwise you wont reach those speeds at 1 km alt
but here is a full fuel 29SMT at 1km

and there is what i could get at 5km alt with full and min fuel

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(for min fuel it was going between 1142 and 1141 kph)

unless you are significantly heavier it dosent really matter until you are flying at way higher altitudes

at around 10km altitude your biggest issue will still be transsonic and supersonic drag

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so, a miniscule diffirence, but still one present. Obviously wouldn’t matter in actual gameplay

Has anyone heard of APP-50MA?

I was reading a suggestion for the Su-37 of… questionable accuracy (much of it was just incorrecct) and they mentoined the capability of carrying 196 CMs.

Countermessures:
2x L-175W Khibiny-W ECM jammer pods
APP-50A and APP 50MA give a total 98 Flares / Chaffs, or 196 Flares or Chaffs, of caliber 50mm (historically not mounted, but technically possible)

i havent heard of it, ask ares maybe

Most of my Flanker suggestions are C&P from old Forum with some old errors, haven’t really bothered with it yet - irrelevant at this point anyway.

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Fair, I’m still gonna look into it.

Having double the countermeasures would be interesting, to say the least.

On an unrelated note who wants to buy some Soviet Style flares.

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Reading up on it, it seems like APP-50MA is just a modernized APP-50A (go figure) that can interface with MAWS systems (?)
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I’m not sure, the only source I found that mentions APP-50MA solely mentions it on the Su-24.

Su-34 page is so wrong lmao. L-150, Mak-UL, APP-50A…

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obviously not UV-5.

Su-34 would never use that…

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is there a reason why the Su34 cant use the radar object filter anymore ?

war thunder breaks everything all the time.

More pics from the back of a Su-30SM.


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They might considering the su30sm2 imolementation

J20 is peak because it has no gun

Most of what we know about chinese jets is from less than reputable sources, its a given considering how the ccp operates. The ws15 should be pretty beefy from known estimates

Bro what the hell J20 looks like a Catfish
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