Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

it’s not surprising considering how insane the thrust of the f-15a is. that thing is one of the best if not the best in stall fights due to its controllability in em. Though the best dogfight fms can just avoid the stall fight entries

Yeah man I agree, no disrespect to the guy who made the camo, but he makes such cool ones that could have been chosen instead.

Look on the bright side tho, at least it’s not one of those anime wt live camos😅

Tremendous flanker buffs! Wish the J11B or J10C got a skin with the crate but whatever. The ‘same skin slightly different planes’ thing has been happening with all the Chinese flankers for some time haha! Low vis for the 11A and 11B

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If yall are wondering where the buffs came from, here are the relevant pages from su-27sk manual.
Basically the amount of gs it could pull while in a dive was underperforming according to these charts.
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the IRST is stowable and rotates to show the RAM covered side

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Basically Low Speed lift Is still underperforming, only difference Is that now flankers are overperforming even more in High Speed STR

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smells good in there?

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there is a subset of people that genuinely think war thunder is a good example of real life perfomance, you can see it when browsing very casual parts of the community

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There is even worse subset of people that think DCS is a good example of real life performance

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r27er is incredibly fun i just notched 2 r77-1s whilst nuking him with r27er. very fun

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dude rn im playing the su-30mkm on blue side in sim, and its so funny smacking su-30s with r27ets. theyre so good against planes without maws

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tbf the aircraft looks good and operate realistically, but the simulation itself is dubious, missiles are orders of magnitude worse than warthunder.

falcon bms however i heard very good things about its modeling of the amraams

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in dcs you can out roll amraams by barrel rolling, i wouldnt take it too serious for missile modeling

There is still plenty of IRL factors that you can’t simply simulate due to hardware limitations. It’s close to real life, but never will be real life or a “good example of how planes works in real life”

afaik you can do it against every missile. falcon bms doesnt have that issue.

this is a white paper on aim120 modelling in the game very enjoyable read i suggest

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ofc

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this aside there is no way in hell the r27er should be penetrating the nozzle of the other r27 right?

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This is called “gaijin fixed belly pylons on Su-30SM”


Su-27 doesn’t have this problem, but every single Su-30 in the game has it

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last time i played the game which was a few years ago, you could do this against most missiles online