Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

Limited LOAL time, baller.

MICA-NG when?

Meh, flow density is still laughably bad and looks like it’s barely getting beyond the nozzle.

Hell, the F-16’s afterburner graphic doesn’t even meet the dive petals.

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Kind of agree, but at least they got rid of the ugly 2010 style inner texture

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Meaningless, a good pilot being able to throw hands vs air rb randoms doesn’t make Su-30 more meta than EF/Beagle/Rafale. Don’t get me wrong, Su-30 isn’t a bad plane, but it simply isn’t as meta as the big 3.

You clearly haven’t learned.

It’s up there—above Su-30, mind you. Just because you can’t get it to work for you doesn’t mean it isn’t.

You are entitled to your opinion.

I ask you this would you trade your 12 missiles, superior Radar for the Typhoons Radar and flight performance and payload…

Of course you wouldn’t no one would and that’s the point at top tier Typhoon has the worst Radar and the worst payload (second only to the Gripen) but it is fast and in BVR it can defend and crank. But that is literally it.

Typhoon is fast and murders most things in 1v1 but we don’t play 1v1 we play 16v16.

shi maybe

Luckily Typhoon excels at both.

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Not 16 v 16 the Radar and payload are insufficient, you end up firing off 2 missiles and not getting a kill and then you have 4 120s left for the late game it is a real balance.

YOU end up firing off 2 missiles and not getting a kill. Everyone else is doing just fine.

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Bullshit

No it can’t

Debatable it still stuck to horrid carrier that can’t do shit

I would argue su-30 is definitely more meta than f-15e for ARB/ASB. I would say its worse than the eurofighter/rafale.

F-15E has more chance to run away from Eurofighter/Rafale, Su-30SM can’t

well, unlike the f-15e which compresses like crazy, the su30 can keep up with a notch fight with the eurofighter, rafale not so much. with its hobs missiles it still stands a chance against those jets, f-15e is just forced to run away

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Bad choice

Are you and I playing the same plane? The r-77-1s are amazing for high off bore, close range notch fights. I have won many engagements with them, unlike something like the f-15e which have garbage close range arh missiles and has garbage instantaneous pull.

Well, why run away? You have more missiles, and you can keep up in a notch fight some what against rafale, and you faily easily beat eurofighter in that situation. You can easily keep pressure up. If you want to, you and I can test this out with me in the su 30 and you in the eurofighter

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bro Su-30sm compresses even harder. You want speed because trash missile. If you fly above mach you compress so much that it hard to evade missile. While in the Rafale or Typhoon you can dance with the missile launched from different directions. Its absurd.

11-12 gs is plenty enough to notch, y’all are going at like mach 1.2 and expecting to not compress are crazy. Hover at like mach .9 and the su30 is perfectly fine at notching.

you can only put 11 to 12 g when your slow on that thing. Normally above mach its 7 to 8 and peak of 9.

While Rafale can pull 15g at mach 1.5 and EF can pull 12g at same speed.

well, why do you have to be going at those speeds? just stay at mach .9 and notch. Why compress into oblivion? You can pull air brake and save yourself.

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It’s still on a horrid carrier.

There is zero chance that you can beat Rafale or Eurofighter on F-15C/E in close range. Eurofighter or Rafale can dictate in which position it he will attack on you of course bad player will jump on you as fast as he can but more experienced will chose better position.

Well in an f-15e/c, sure you cannot win. But an su-30 definitely has a chance because of it’s r-771s. Theyre the 3rd best missile close range arh wise.