Finally playing Su-30SM, and I must say, it’s the second aircraft I found fun to play (obviously the 1st would be Rafale, EZ Mode lmao). With its missile loadout, you can pretty much scare off enemy aircraft before launching your second Fox 3, this is my best strategy to defeat Rafale Orbital Strike. The stockgrind is pretty painful though because you’re relying on R-27ER as your BVR Missile. R-77-1 for me is just glorified R-Darter that can go BVR in a straight path, pretty multirole missiles compared to MICA-EM.
Honestly, I really can’t wait for Su-35S to be coming out to War Thunder, Flanker is a pretty fun aircraft! Sad to see Fulcrum becoming obsolete in War Thunder :(
As long you know how to chaff and notching, any aircraft would works, especially the aircraft that have large calibre countermeasures like Flankers.
Yeah the missile count is nice because you can shoot off some of them to limit the early positioning in the match, and you don’t have to worry about halving your loadout :)
I hope that a configuration with 2 extra dipensers will be possible, since theoretically it can have 2 above and under the tail:
I focus down Rafale no matter the plane i am in, just to deny them any way of contributing to the game. Occasional hatemail is also a nice bonus ngl. But surprisingly enough i never struggle against Su-30. The times i die to R-77-1 is usually when i did certified skill issue and put myself out of position and pretty much any other missile would hit me anyways.
Kinda ironic here when I use Su-30SM, I always died by Rafale, in other aircraft, I’m rarely killed by Rafale either due to less Rafale or the Rafales themselves already being killed by other player.
It’s pretty hard when the team full of Rafale (at minimum 6 Rafale), because whenever they hear their MAW Beeping, they instantly going cold. However, forcing them to run from my R-77-1 is so funny, they really used to speeding, they forget their position is in danger when trying to stay high against Su-30SM.
even after buffs Su-30 is pretty easy to force into low energy state by being offencive, and huge missile count ain’t helping poor thing. Still amazing plane but you really need to be careful with your positioning.
Indeed it is, but I know what I do, I like the energy state of Flanker because it’s literally Giant Gripen. Slow, but can reach top speed, but also can bleed its speed fast to kill the angle gating, because fast aircraft also tend to have higher doppler return.
3D model, much like the Su-30 on release, will be a blantant mix of already present flankers, and will most likely require reports to fix it.
FM wise, given the weight, it will be a heavy boat like the Su30 but less draggier due to lack of canards(?), so no duel beast.
Acceleration should feel quite good, not delta-canard level, but quite better than the Su-30 (200kg extra weight but with around 3000kgf-ish more thrust).
Radar, depending on how they chose to model the angle limitations, could be quite a good one, especially since you theoretically could sit in the notch and guide your missiles.
Other general electronics;
-Finally MAW, for more situational awarenss.
-Improved RWR, which from what I saw it covers more angles, pretty nice since Flankers got blindspots (especially when notching).
-Proper HMD for the SIM enjoyers.
-R-77-1’s which on a faster platform will feel even better (hopefully also align its seeker to MICA level).
If I missed some other key feature feel free to tell me.
Spoiler
Yes another KH-38 carrier, but I have no say on GRB, so, whatever.
Given how the 27sm’s engines perform in flight, I think the al-41 pushed those exponential gains even further. I’ve got pretty high expectations, I think it’s gonna fly really fast and have acceleration on par with the eurocanards
I just hope they only nerf the micas half sensitivity angle to 15°, it was already good like that before, theres no reason for it to have some artificial buff, the gameplay against the other missiles is honestly pretty fun the way it is right now
The only flanker that will have that are the j-11bg equipped with the ws-10b engines, similar thrust as su-35s but on an airframe lighter than the su-27sm.
That thing has higher thrust to weight than eurofighter
Fair enough. I forgot to specify this but in my opinion, since I doubt they will revert the MICA changes, what I meant with “align R-77-1 seeker” was also refered to other Fox-3 seekers in general.
I understand your point tho, having all Fox-3’s with MICA seeker would probably negatively impact how the matches play out (while giving more fairness to less-performant Fox-3’s that some jets carry). I think that the devs are already thinking about this tho, they mentioned ECM more than once in their CM notes, so maybe they have this planned.
I dont know if I would trade the RAM for a J11BG, BG might take a while to show up in the game, and 5th gen is planned for around the middle of next year, even though it has AESA, I’ll probably fly both a lot. I also have my doubts if chinese engines are really at that level of excellence, I follow some military reports on a few chinese sites, and I often see people saying the engine quality never quite hits the goal that chinese engineers want, the engine is honestly the hardest part to make on a plane, some of them take decades to really mature and get reliable. China really started making their own engines what, like 2 or 3 decades ago?
