Ayo someone find me that evidence
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Please bring that evidence because I could tell you that the earth is flat and just say that the evidence is posted somewhere
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Specifically I believe it was an Su-30 test bed for the base avionics that are used on all current Sukhois, if my memory of the paper is correct.
After all, a universal operating system being used from the late 1990s makes sense since most manufacturers have been using such things from the early 1990s.
And outside Su-27SM, these double racks are typically on the worst flight performance Sukhois; no this is not a claim that Su-27SM can use them, this is a statement about flight performance.
The Su-30SM is like the Soviet F-18E. Really good avionics, but probably the worst flight performance of that nation’s fleet.
I really do not understand why people are opposing Su-30SM’s AAM count. It isn’t from realism standpoint, because Su-30SM and Su-35 share the same centerlines and likely the base requirements in the operating system for that amount.
Both were developed after MKI, and so the lessons of MKI would’ve been implemented.
You can belive in the church, we want hard evidence here
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only thing i’ve seen is some misleading ass photo of the su-30sm taking in such an angle that it looks like it had double racks when it really doesn’t
but upon closer inspection
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i’m not sure, probably. su-27sm should also be able to use r-77-1, both planes use n001vep
We don’t even need photos of Su-30SM with them because we have photos of Su-35, which is the same exact center-line as the Su-30SM and MKI.
The only difference the Su-30SM/Su-35 may have over MKI is a more robust version of the operating system used for the avionics.
Which is the same as having photos of Gripen A with Skyflash and Gripen C getting them.
@Zannafrancy
export r-37m has 8g target overload:
domestic r-27er has 8g target overload as well
Spoiler
Don’t be surprised if r37m itself hits 30+ gs
theres more to it than sheer kinematic capability, and we’re also discussing starting from the page on the marketing site, afaik 35gs is significant kinematic overkill in the case of the r27 series. for a 8g maneuvering target, its not farfetched to point out there might be other factors limiting it rather than sheer kinematic ability, american’s aim7m’s are also rated for an 8g maneuvering target for example and on another extreme end the mistral is also rated for such targets afaik
edit: do you happen to have the original sources for that page on hand?
thanks
30+ G at mach 5+ is pretty different to 30+ G at mach 2 or 3 though.
30G at hypersonic speed is still making a circle the size of Texas unless it’s also slowing down super fast while pulling that constantly.
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That don’t make sense. IF Nothing it would mean that the R-37m would support more G. Because it have to pull more to archive the same 8G to the target.
is there a version of that, that is a bit higher quality?
thx
su-35 has full balls maws and laser warning, like rafale.
unsure if it has full ball rwr though
it has 6 (maw) sensors irl but i think the placement of some sensors are wrong in this pic.
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