Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

yes because the guy in the EF played it wrong, he did a syrian lead turn, which caused him to lose all his position at the start of the DF

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Typhoon probably didnt know where you were bet the Radar didnt even see you 😆

and even in a neutral merge the F-22 would struggle it is as heavy if not heavier as the Su-30
it loses alot of engine performance at lower speeds due to the s-ducts and it dosent/didnt have HOBS capebilities

I didn’t know this premature turn had a name, looks almost exactly like what happened in my video, maybe just narrower space in my case.

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Probably T220 TGP too since there’s no evidence that it can carry it …

I don’t think there was a second step :)

Isn’t the 35k lbf static thrust?

It could cue it’s missiles with radar iirc

yeah, that line aged badly x)

~ 15k kg thrust,
i hope it is per engine
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the other problem is that it might have more thrust, but depending on the surce it is as heavy, if not heavier as the Su-30 and has smaller wings than the Flankers and so a higher wing loading

(ik it is a Su-33 on the image, but it should be enough to get an idea)
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that might certainly be true, but in an actual dogfight a HMD seems alot better to me than having to actively using your radar

Yeah F-22 is 35k lbf each engine static thrust.

And recently F-22 got HMD but I’m fine if it doesn’t since APG-77 is a very good radar, probably best in-game when added

is that really for inside the airframe or just bench thrust, because normally you only find the numbers for bench thrust

but to be fair, if there is a Flanker that would have to face the F-22 it would be the Su-35S
(atleast i hope that gaijin manages to do some decompression before adding 5th gens)

I mean maybe, but I’ve heard it can put out more power than they say so they could be using installed static as bench to hide true capabilities.

Something about being able to do mach 2 with 118% out of 150% power

If that isn’t an excess of thrust, I don’t know what is

Mach 2 at 40k with 118%, “I could go supersonic by the end of the runway”, “brake release to mach 1.7 and 60k in 3 minutes 30” (wasn’t allowed to go supersonic below 30k)

well highly dpends on altitude and if we are talking pure speed the Mig-25 beats it with mach 3

i hate when ppl use percentages like that
so 100% would be full dry thrust and 150% full afterburning, i assume

if we translate that to WT (as we are all a bit more familiar with that) 118% would corelate to about 104% throtle in WT (it would be percisely 103.6%, kinda hard to do in WT)

40,000 feet =12,192km
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mach 2 is already possible to acive in the currently avaiable jets in WT at 104% throtle, at a lower altitude, while flying in a straight line
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and i was able to get it up to mach 1.12 with 103% throttle

Can you check how long it takes to go from mach 1.6 to 1.9 at 40k ft, and 0.9 to 1.2 at 40k?

at full burner?

Yeah just gun it, I’m assuming that’s what F-22 test pilot did

around 30 seconds

i love when the embeds fail

around 33 seconds

probably not 100% accurate, because i couldnt exactly hold the altitude

Thanks. Seems like Raptor is worse from .9 to 1.2 (assuming max burner) and better from 1.6 to 1.9

Flanker might be tuned to high for that regime too

it might also be underperforming, we just dont know

the point iam trying to make is that the Su-35S would be better than the Su-27Sm, because it gets the
Al-41 (to be more percise the Izdelie 117S)
and i read somewhere that it has a variable bypass ratio, but i cant find it anymore, so take that with a grain of salt

(Item 117 is a misstranslation of Izdelie 117)

“The Pakfa can indeed supercruise anywhere between M1. 2-1.4 with the present Item-117 engines. The Su-35S is said to supercruise at Mach 1. 2-1.3 with an air to air load. Not its full complement of 14 A2A missiles but with 4-6 air to air missiles. Now the Pak-Fa has more advanced aerodynamics, lower wing loading, a higher L/D ratio, no exposed pylons and internal carriage of weapons. So it is only logical that the Pakfa will supercruise, and not at the wee low end of Mach 1.1-1.2 but a notch higher.”

Vladimir Karnozov:
“Russia’s new Sukhoi Su-35 fighter is already showing its high-performance capabilities. This new single-seat aircraft — which combines the proven Su-27 Flanker airframe, 16% more powerful engines and a totally new set of onboard systems — is said to have reached supercruise speed, a distinct feature of fifth-generation fighters.”

So F-22 would probably remain best supercruiser and have a lot of thrust and speed left for any fighting, and tvc for low speed if it came to it.

I’ve also heard of PW119 really being 39,000lbf static so on F-22 on ground it would be 35k and maybe even go higher at speed and altitude

The F-22 does get faster the faster you go