Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

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Are you and I playing the same plane? The r-77-1s are amazing for high off bore, close range notch fights. I have won many engagements with them, unlike something like the f-15e which have garbage close range arh missiles and has garbage instantaneous pull.

Well, why run away? You have more missiles, and you can keep up in a notch fight some what against rafale, and you faily easily beat eurofighter in that situation. You can easily keep pressure up. If you want to, you and I can test this out with me in the su 30 and you in the eurofighter

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445

bro Su-30sm compresses even harder. You want speed because trash missile. If you fly above mach you compress so much that it hard to evade missile. While in the Rafale or Typhoon you can dance with the missile launched from different directions. Its absurd.

446

11-12 gs is plenty enough to notch, y’all are going at like mach 1.2 and expecting to not compress are crazy. Hover at like mach .9 and the su30 is perfectly fine at notching.

447

you can only put 11 to 12 g when your slow on that thing. Normally above mach its 7 to 8 and peak of 9.

While Rafale can pull 15g at mach 1.5 and EF can pull 12g at same speed.

448

well, why do you have to be going at those speeds? just stay at mach .9 and notch. Why compress into oblivion? You can pull air brake and save yourself.

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449

It’s still on a horrid carrier.

There is zero chance that you can beat Rafale or Eurofighter on F-15C/E in close range. Eurofighter or Rafale can dictate in which position it he will attack on you of course bad player will jump on you as fast as he can but more experienced will chose better position.

450

Well in an f-15e/c, sure you cannot win. But an su-30 definitely has a chance because of it’s r-771s. Theyre the 3rd best missile close range arh wise.

451

It can easily be negated by more experienced player. You at mercy of an enemy player if he doesn’t make stupid mistake he won’t lose engagement

452

Oh you play simulator… Yea Su-30sm and meta there its completely diff from RB. I love to watch S I N fly that thing on Simulator. Its feel like its another airplane. RB Su-30sm its a bus.

453

So guys now that so many western planes are getting C-5’s, we’re gonna see R-77-1’s on more platforms!

… Right?

454

Doubt it. The loudness of US players knows no bounds.

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455

We need Su-30SM2 and R-37M for balance

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456

Welcome to the red balance you getting nothing

457

just reduce r77-1 drag, lazy but workable fix because gaijin cant implement variable drag

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458

What needs the R-77-1 the most rn is:

  1. MiG-29SMT
  2. Su-34
  3. Su-27SM

In that order, so we’re definitely gonna get it right? Seriously the F-15E getting C-5s opened a flood gate that shouldn’t have been opened in the first place.

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459

Shouldvd been F-16C

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460

Those are 13.3 and 13.7 plane not 14.0
give 77-1 to those mean F-16 and Gripen should get C-5 as well

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Oh plesse it can survive with the 120B, and unlike the MiG-29. It doesn’t have a gimped Flight model, overperforming in fact.

Su-27SM probably doesn’t need it, cause N001 is too horrible to full utilize it anyways. Su-34 is a Strike Aircraft, literally a bus

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I mean F-16C getting C-5 then moved to 14.0 wouldn’t be as bad as F-15E with C-5

463

I mean it’s fine where it currently is, doesn’t really need a buff or a nerf