The Su-27 radar scans the target for about 10 seconds in TWS mode, so it loses targets even more than the Eurofighter. And flying with the radar off on a flanker is sometimes very unpleasant. But I think the Eurofighter is the best fighter for BVR even with such a bad radar.
F-15E is hands down the best BVR fighter, it’s the one thing it has going for it.
should we also point out at this point how unreliable bvr shots are? even a launch to hit ratio of 25% is hard to archive
The Eurofighter is better than the F-15E because it has very strong maneuverability at high altitudes to dodge missiles, and also has an infinite supply of countermeasures. The Eurofighter is a very fast climb fighter and it is not much worse in climb rate than the F-15E
Unlimited counter measures:
Very sad flanker noises
Apparently it gets even slightly worse with the su30sm
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Tbh i kinda prefer the f15e for bvr, euro radar is really bad for its br…
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On paper absolutely the F-15s Radar and 8 BVR missiles with similar performance makes it better.
When/If the Typhoon gets the Radar fixed it will be on a similar level.
Typhoons Radar really is pure ass
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If you know how to use the Eurofighter radar, you will be much more powerful than the F-15E.
Very much the case, you are better to use the 120 in the long to medium range.
I feel anything over 20km is a wasted shot.
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But the flanker’s radar is much worse than the eurofighter’s radar. Now try playing sim battles on the flanker and you’ll feel its terrible radar.
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I easily got a K/D (22/2) in a sim battle where the F-15s lost to BVR every time because I had the radar narrow view on.
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Sim is very different.
And? Eurofighter is still the best fighter for BVR.
Eurofighter radar is better than flanker’s stupid radar
i have both eft (german) & su27 and eft’s radar is much better. its not as bad as you say when compared with su27.
Disucssion was never who is better at BVR, which the Typhoon is because even with it’s crappy Radar it flies highr faster and has the best BVR missile.
SIM is a very different game though.
Su-27 as mentioned does not depend on it’s Radar as much
Most Su-27 kills are from 19km and below you can switch to HMD/ACM mode.
Typhoon needs it’s radar as it is more suited to BVR. German Typhoons dont have the IRST and the really cool switching from Radar or IR mode when you dont want it.
In a no Radar fight the Flanker is probably winning
No one is saying the Su-27 Radar is good
Simulator battles better reveal the capabilities of your aircraft and your ability to play on it.
What I’m saying is that the Eurofighter is a very good fighter even with a bad radar, but that radar is not as bad as the flanker’s radar.
HMD/ACM modes are very unreliable in the su27 , it needs a better radar more than the eft . i would pick the eft’s setup any day over the su27. i have a feeling that gaijin gimped its radar intentionally till the next patch where were get more competitive aircraft.
Ok so with no Radar the Su-27 still have R-27ET, R-77s
Typhoon has Aim9M…
No Su-27 Radar is bad because of Russian/Soviet doctrine the Radar was designed to find things the ground controller vectored them to.
CAPTOR-M was designed with air superiority and multi mission modes.
CAPTOR-M should be in a different league and the 2nd best Radar in game
You have MAW and a million countermeasures
Aim-120?