Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

I do not know, maybe the translator translated something incorrectly…
The main use in Russia is Air defense…
Iturup(Yasny) 2020-2021…

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Your picture shows the Su-30SM/SM2 from the 43rd OMSHAP(Saki.Crimea).

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Exactly escort duties and air defence (QRF) Quick reaction force (QRA) Quick reaction alert.

I think we both agree Su-30 are not being used in a ground attack capacity.

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Although in the Air Forces of other countries, for example, the Su-30MKI of India is designed, among other things, for missions that the Su-34 performs in Russia…

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Bigger question is, will the Su-30SM have a realistic payload or will it receive the fictitious double R-77 belly racks as seen on the Su-27SM?

Is having a better FM, Radar a good enough trade off for a payload reduction?

Probably at least for 14.0, or maybe even 13.7 depends on performance.

I don’t think it should, considering that it can carry 10 R-77 and 2 R-73 without the double pylons. Even for the 27SM, gaijin should stop playing coy and upgrade it to SM3 standard with the 4 pylon wings and remove the double fuselage racks.

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I havent seen one carrying that many missiles. The point was the R-77 double pylons are fictious they are not real and are not used. But they have been implemented to help the (at the time) struggling Su-27
Which now isn’t struggling.

The Su-30SM will likely be the best jet in the game I see performance of the F-15E with insane maneuverability and a the best Radar in game.

The way gaijin does flight models we don’t know, but looking at thrust to weight Su-30SM is not even close to F-15E and EFT especially

Is the SU-30SM the best su30? Or are there other better versions?

There are upgraded versions of the Su-30SM with better engines, otherwise yes it’s the best SU-30

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There’s the SM2, idk how better it is tho

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The buff to the Su-27 has put it in a similar performance envelope as the F-15E. Typhoon will always have TWR over the Sukhoi. The Canards and TVC will allow the Su-30SM to dominate VWR

Typhoons Radar is also terrible.
Su-30SM x10-R-77 and x2 R-73 will not be taken lighly.
Typhoon can carry x6 120s and x2 aim9m

For WT purpose probably much better. since it has far better engines

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ohh i see, thanks for the info @Giovanex05 @dragonflaine71

i hope that gaijin lets us turn on and off the thrust vectoring, cause if not, that thing is going to bleed all speed in just one turn

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Is the engine improvement that significant?

They usually don’t because it’s used as a multi-role instead of an air superiority fighter, but it can carry R-77s up to the second to last pylon under the wing

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One circle HMD R-73 win every engagement

Oh yes. The AL-41 is much more powerful

not really, f15s, f16s, gripens, ef and etc, got a LOT, and i mean A LOT of cms to just keep pre flaring like a maniac

Su-27SM
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Su-30SM
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Their “normal weight” (i believe they mean the default weaponry and fuel amount used by the crews) appears to be close to each other but unfortunately the website does not inform the empty weight of the su-30sm

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