Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

That’s because the F-15C and F-16C are actually somewhat close to their diagrams.

Also regarding the su-37, it has a higher TW ratio than the su-35 from what I’ve read, and I agree it would probably be the best flanker and I wouldn’t mind seeing it in game at some point but the flanker series in game currently has its drag modeled wrong as the engines are over performing in certain scenarios. And given that gaijin would rather boost all around drag then fix the engines in their certain scenarios it has become what we have today. Even still the flankers in sim controls, which is what I use all the time no matter the plane, is still one of my favorite dog fighters as it forces you to use some brain cells and manage your energy while still giving you the ability to get good angles with its aoa

2 Likes

I don’t understand what the deal is with the instructor. If you use keybinds to input full pitch up, then shouldn’t that override the instructor? I still haven’t gotten around to setting up my controls to try to swap between modes.

My takeaway when flying the Flanker is that it, more than any other plane that I have flown, has forced me to take the greatest possible care with managing fuel load. You really need to sweat and min-max the hell out of your initial fuel load and manage afterburner usage so that you arrive to the combat in a state where you’re practically running on fumes just so that you can turn a bit better. But then you need to take care that you don’t run completely dry in a way that you can’t return to an airfield. I’m going to mangle the spelling, but I’m used to that Rita voice yelling “RABISH VOJRATTA” at me.

I really hope the MiG-29 (9.12/9.13) and SMT get better (why didn’t they just add the MiG-29M?) along with the Flanker but still. I doubt that’s on Gaijin’s list of stuff to do.

3 Likes

Let’s say it together
PAE!

It’s either the sea lightning or the EAP 😂

What about the Su-27M? Would that bring anything new to the table for USSR top tier air?

A good radar.

Is it’s radar better then the SM? I thought the 27SM was more modern then the 27M, but that the 27M had better flight peformance. But yall know more then I do most likely lol

SMs radar is a cheap N001 modernization, Su-27M has new N011 radar.

More modern doesn’t always equate better. The SM is a midlife upgrade and refurbishment of old Su-27S airframes with some minor radar improvements of the old N001.

The SU-27M is a completely new build with new N011 radar.

Makes me wonder why we got the 27SM in the first place. IMO we should have gotten the 27M or the 27SM3 instead of what we got now

1 Like

Well apparently the “statistics” put the SM “slightly behind” the F-15C and E. But then seeing how F-15 players play, spamming all their missiles the second a radar contact appears, not surprised.

the Su-34 does not have a TVC, look at the implementation of the R-73, the rocket loses speed even with the engine running, which is absurd, it goes into a steep spiral from time to time.And now imagine what will happen to an airplane with such a realization from a slug

2 Likes

True. If this skill/statistics where in the opposite way with the US teams being very skilled, we would probably at least have the Su35 lol

1 Like

Im starting the grind in top tier china, because I love the flanker and I worry that china will be the only place I will be able to play a competitive flanker, at least any time soon. If the leaks are right we will get the J11B, which should be better then the SU27SM in every single possible metric. Also I love the Su-33 in particular, but again I think im going to have more luck just playing the J15 whenever that comes along 😭

Also the J-10 is amazing, vastly better than the MiG-29’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVJn3nUTwHY crap-33 confirmed

3 Likes

We are waiting for the next 360 degree cobra

2 Likes