But isn’t it historical?
Kind of hilarious seeing this after AIM-120 was dominating since intro and is still a better missile up until this day
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Definitely worth the grind, gotta stay more on the defensive with it but its got a really nice kill consistency :D
Gameplay wise it created imbalance.
There is no reason why a Su-30Sm needs 14 missiles.
It is not a struggling jet
It doesn’t
Typhoon as an example carries 6 120s.
If I face a Su-30 he has double the ARHM I have and a superior short range missile in the R-73.
Players are flying in and firing off 5/6 missiles at close range to guarantee the kill.
No other nation can do this.
When they add the Su-35 if it has 14 missiles nothing else will stand a chance
I would swap 6 120s for 10 or 12 R-77,
Would you do the same?
Not if you are Russian, we are entering the same arguments we have in ground battles when they added the Ka-50…give it a realistic load and it dominated. Sometimes we need to make decisions for gameplay balance.
Like nerfing Typhoons Radar, like nerfing MICAs range
Would you accept if Typhoon had 6 Meteors (like it should) vs the 12 R-77-1 you have?
If it was the sm2 then yeah i’d agree that it would be pretty good, but with that crap engine? Cmon dude. With the f15e which can go at absurd speeds and rain missiles like meteors and rafale with its absurd FM + radar the su-30sm would be the last plane that i’d consider OP in top tier lol.
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Not for anyone. Its a dinky R-77-1.
Like the old days when Phantom players were throwing a fit that the MiG-21bis could carry 6 R-60’s, nevermind that were only R-60’s.
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I didn’t say OP I said it has too many missiles.
The problem with that is players will shoot off 5 missiles to kill a single jet. No other jet can do that we all have to think about the chance of missile shots hitting the Su-30Sm players do not.
R-60s that were all aspect, pulled more G and Phatoms didn’t have SARHM…
You would really want 12 base R-77s? You realize you’re shooting yourself on the foot right?
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Rear aspect R-60’s. R-60M’s didn’t come until years later.
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100% more chances to kill 120s efficacy drops dramatically the closer you get.
No in the beginning they could lock the front of a Phantom
R-60 had (partial all aspect)
Same with other rear aspects, you get a tiny window headon against afterburning targets.
That’s a matter for the typhoon thread, instead of trying to nerf historical stuff that aren’t even justifiable (this is not a r27er x sparrow situation) they need to fix these planes.
If the game is not ready for these machines then they shouldn’t be added at first place, period. Adding crippled vehicles to the game is the most insufferable thing gaijin does. If back in 2022 they said that they’d need to wait 3 more years to add 4th gen aircraft because the game wasn’t prepared for them, no problem. I prefer to wait a long time to recieve a good product instead of this pathetic fast-food content.
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R-60 and maybe the 9J were the only ones that could do it. We are getting off topic
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No the Su-30 and the 27SM have more air to air pylons than they should. Not sure if the Su-34 does though I recall seeing something about it on here.
Su-30 shouldn’t have double racks between the engines and the 27SM shouldn’t have them at all.
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If it’s not historical then ok it should get fixed.