Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

It is missing symbology in simulator difficulty it has in RB

I don’t think I need to provide sources for that

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@Flame2512 I saw what you deleted

RB:

Sim:

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My bad I thought you were referring to the green game UI, didn’t notice the HUD text.
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Yeah I deleted it because I realised I’d made a mistake and explained that mistake in the comment I just posted.

No problem.

It is just weird to me that the Hud works differently in RB and Sim even tho it shouldn’t.
The same thing happened to the EF as well.

Like idk how that even happens.

damm , my bad

Same thing :)

That’s why I asked him to mark it for the tech mod.

Wow thats unplayable…

On another note though, does anyone know why the Su-27’s, all variants including 30SM, are missing datalink? I know some craft like Rafale and Eurofighter get them, but Su-27’s should have them too no? I know its modeled in DCS, so im not sure what gives here.

I think its called the Nartsiss Datalink or something. I dont have anything on it, except from this one quote.

“1.A target with an altitude line, a velocity vector, mixing up from the leading link (not solidified) 2.The Goal number 3.A target with a”

Seems weird

So i came here because yall are really knowledgeable on sukhois i need tips for stock grinding Su30 please am 15 battles in and i keep dieing before making any score

So far they’re only modeling datalink for aircrafts that can show friendlies on the their HMD.

And only friendlies are shown (no target sharing), and only on the HMD. And it’s not modeled as a proper datalink (there are no emissions), but rather works automagically.

Because the Schmehl-3 is only an HMS instead of an actual HMD. It has datalink irl, but it does not transmit to the helmet, because well, it’s not an HMD

The stock grind its really hard. Until you get R-77-1. Watch this maybe it can help you. You Don’t Need Anything More Or Anything Less, It’s Perfect!

The FM suck. IMO.

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why is it Mig-15 instead of MiG-15

it isnt your personal opinion, it is a fact

does it really matter at the end?

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These are usually limitations in operation!..
For example,
according to the memoirs of American pilots, we know that they accelerated the MiG-23MS at low altitude to 1.6 M (it had restrictions on heating the cockpit canopy at a speed of more than 1.7 M, the glass of the cockpit canopy of the MiG-23MS turned into a jelly-like state)…
For the MiG-23ML, this is so…

Spoiler

миг_23мл_пр_аэрод_189
МИГ-23МЛ

  1. The limiting characteristics of the Soviet/Russian aircraft can be found only from the document “Test Report” which is not publicly available!..

It doesn’t matter. It’s the same for all nations.

It’s not like other countries’ aircrafts explode when they go over their Vne.

And Gaijin applies a multiplier to account for the safety margins that those figures include …

While one country/company could be more conservative than another and apply bigger safety margins, you would need to have documents to prove that on a case-by-case basis (and even then I’m not sure if Gaijin would take that into account).

Otherwise, it’s the same for everyone … You take what the manufacturer says and apply the margin that is applied for all aircrafts in the game …

These doc are what we need. Sadly.

I do not know what is in the game!..I don’t play planes!..
But I know that the MiG-23 can reach speeds of 1.6 M near the ground and 2.6 M at an altitude of 11 kilometers!..
On the Sukhoi website, the figures for the Su-30MKI are the same as for the Su-30SM in the brochure (1350 km/h),for the Su-27UBK_1400 km/h…
So for the Su-30SM/ MKI, these are most likely strength limitations and have nothing to do with which aircraft is newer or more advanced… ПАО "Компания “Сухой” - Самолеты - Военная авиация - Су-30МК - ЛТХ

  1. So the figure of 1400 km/ h for the Su-34 is quite real (or at least 1350 km/h)…
    I have already posted this photo for the Su-27SK here…(Literally in the text_1400 km/h (strength limit), 2.35M (cabin window glazing limit)…
Spoiler

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