gaijin be like: nah, here, 2 more r77 is enough
+2000 kgf will definitely make a difference bro, don’t worry… BFM it might not be as good as early 4th gen but the climb rate will be decent
Come on SU30SM is good enough. N011M is a good radar, flight model especially with TVC is tier 1, R-77-1 is equal to AMRAAM so far, slightly worse in terms of long range pull, but obviously if they fix R-77-1 it would be the best missile by far, it is already the second best. 14.0 for this is good enough. Soviet jets do not need fixing, they do fine. There might have been an argument before this, but I don’t think there is anything to complain about with Russian air.
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They are limited by altitude and fuel more fuel more drag. Typhoon and F-15 guys take 10-15 mins fuel to ensure they hit the BVR release altitude and velocity. release the 120s and then defend RTB with 3 mins of fuel left.
Typhoon top speed is quoted as Mach 1.8 in game we are reaching 1.5-1.6 and releasing 120s.
Su-27 top speed is quoted as Mach 2.2…Even with additional weight and drag I would expect Mach 1.6-1.8 for missile release speed.
F-15E top speed is similar to a Su-27
Larger maps and air spawn would mean greater fuel management and more positioning. And the opportunity for slower accelerating airframes to reach optimal weapon release speeds.
Su-35 with the upgraded engines climb rate equals and exceeds Typhoon and F-15.
Only in a straight line. Drag makes it much worse against notching target
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Does anybody have info on how heavy is each sukhoi, from the 27 to the 35?
About 2 tonnes in additional weight on a Su-27
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what about the su-33 and su-30sm?
I did say that, but you can still hit targets, after all it does pull better in close engagements. I have been shot notching by a su30SM 25km away, even at point of impact, it was a spray but still, it can match AMRAAM better than any other missile RN, more so in range than PL12 RN.
What are you even saying? PL-12 is the closest match to the AMRAAM and China finally gets another platform with it
- Su-33 Empty Weight: Approximately 18,400 kg
- Su-30 Empty Weight: Approximately 17,700 kg
rn the su30 is heavier than the 33 (18,830kg in wt) - with less thrust than the 33 too
Current info of Su-35s without Canards. Put it around the same weight as Su-30sm. How? idk. So Su-37 should be the same.
Didnt specify versions I can only go on publicly available information im sure BBC will here soon to correct us all.
the su30sm is the same as the su30mki it should weigh around 18,400kg as far as I know, bbcr is saying 19,000kg without providing sources and gaijin put the 18,830kg which I have never seen online
first google search for me:
280v330?v300?
So it seems these planes don’t differentiate at all in terms of weight, su-35 performance will depend on the engines. At least without canards it will lose less speed.
No, R-77-1 is the closest, thanks to the stronger propelling, still worse but better than PL12 RN for sure, nvm when it is fixed fully. PL12 is a much bigger missile and doesn’t actually get its full thrust as it is for export model currently in game.
It’s actually around 30,720kg with full fuel and full arh load when I think about it. God damn that’s a heavy plane