rn the su30 is heavier than the 33 (18,830kg in wt) - with less thrust than the 33 too
Current info of Su-35s without Canards. Put it around the same weight as Su-30sm. How? idk. So Su-37 should be the same.
Didnt specify versions I can only go on publicly available information im sure BBC will here soon to correct us all.
the su30sm is the same as the su30mki it should weigh around 18,400kg as far as I know, bbcr is saying 19,000kg without providing sources and gaijin put the 18,830kg which I have never seen online
first google search for me:
280v330?v300?
So it seems these planes don’t differentiate at all in terms of weight, su-35 performance will depend on the engines. At least without canards it will lose less speed.
No, R-77-1 is the closest, thanks to the stronger propelling, still worse but better than PL12 RN for sure, nvm when it is fixed fully. PL12 is a much bigger missile and doesn’t actually get its full thrust as it is for export model currently in game.
It’s actually around 30,720kg with full fuel and full arh load when I think about it. God damn that’s a heavy plane
I suspect su35 will be to su27 what the f15e is to the f15c, quite not much different in bfm but with much better climb rate
Current version, would assume AL-31
Export versions will often have increased weight or downgraded some components compared to the domestic version of the Russian Air Force, for example, the domestic Su57 will be equipped with AL-51 instead of AL-41.
yeah but how do we know for sure the empty weight of the su30sm? if it isnt the same as the mki and it isnt the 17,700kg that google first gave us D:
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Su-35s 280. F-15c 330. Eurofighter 300. Dunno if these are the exactly values. Just putting some numbers.
Also it look like Russia its more focused on trying to increase service time on their engine that trying to push the Thrust (something like Rafale engine). So even if the Su-35"sm" get new engine i don’t think it will increase the thrust of them. That its why some lates “leaks” on AL-51 rate it a 16 tons. When they where aiming for 18 to 20 tons.
Yes that’s right…
I should have said that the su30 is in between the Su27 and Su33 in weight.
On top of that I don’t know how gaijin modeled the special afterburner.
Because afaik irl they can’t use it all the time without damaging the engines/ destroying them
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I mean, we already have overheating damage mechanic all the way since props
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Engines are calculated by operating time. If afterburn is used for a long time, operating time will be reduced and maintenance will be required sooner than expected.
More bug reporting is in order it seems. Bloody hell, that a mess
I think it gor reported already and accepted to change the color, I remember seeing yesterday.
