Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

On paper absolutely the F-15s Radar and 8 BVR missiles with similar performance makes it better.
When/If the Typhoon gets the Radar fixed it will be on a similar level.

Typhoons Radar really is pure ass

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If you know how to use the Eurofighter radar, you will be much more powerful than the F-15E.

Very much the case, you are better to use the 120 in the long to medium range.

I feel anything over 20km is a wasted shot.

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But the flanker’s radar is much worse than the eurofighter’s radar. Now try playing sim battles on the flanker and you’ll feel its terrible radar.

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I easily got a K/D (22/2) in a sim battle where the F-15s lost to BVR every time because I had the radar narrow view on.

Weak fighter

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Sim is very different.

And? Eurofighter is still the best fighter for BVR.
Eurofighter radar is better than flanker’s stupid radar

i have both eft (german) & su27 and eft’s radar is much better. its not as bad as you say when compared with su27.

Disucssion was never who is better at BVR, which the Typhoon is because even with it’s crappy Radar it flies highr faster and has the best BVR missile.

SIM is a very different game though.

Su-27 as mentioned does not depend on it’s Radar as much
Most Su-27 kills are from 19km and below you can switch to HMD/ACM mode.

Typhoon needs it’s radar as it is more suited to BVR. German Typhoons dont have the IRST and the really cool switching from Radar or IR mode when you dont want it.

In a no Radar fight the Flanker is probably winning

No one is saying the Su-27 Radar is good

Simulator battles better reveal the capabilities of your aircraft and your ability to play on it.

What I’m saying is that the Eurofighter is a very good fighter even with a bad radar, but that radar is not as bad as the flanker’s radar.

HMD/ACM modes are very unreliable in the su27 , it needs a better radar more than the eft . i would pick the eft’s setup any day over the su27. i have a feeling that gaijin gimped its radar intentionally till the next patch where were get more competitive aircraft.

Ok so with no Radar the Su-27 still have R-27ET, R-77s
Typhoon has Aim9M…

No Su-27 Radar is bad because of Russian/Soviet doctrine the Radar was designed to find things the ground controller vectored them to.

CAPTOR-M was designed with air superiority and multi mission modes.

CAPTOR-M should be in a different league and the 2nd best Radar in game

You have MAW and a million countermeasures

Aim-120?

Meant R-73
R-27ET can be challenge even with MAWs it is a fast dangerous missile.

Bad argument. To make a bad radar for a fighter jet for a huge amount of money because of military doctrine

Spinner-73? xDDD

I saw how a blind Rafale easily dodged my missile with MAW, and my missile flew into the engine(It missed).
The Eurofighter can do the same.

A bad argument because it’s true?
IRBIS and newer Radars are changing this, with the Aircraft able to see further than before.

I would take an R-73 over an Aim9M every day of the week and I doubt you would trade your R-73 for Aim9M on the Su-27?

Yes MAWS is a system and it works but it is not a catch all. I have been killed by IR missiles despite having a maws.

1:51 its sick. That pink/purple color.

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PD acm on the su 27 is horrid. It’s way easier using ir acm then switching to pd. or, just use hms pd

If this is true, I want good evidence (Russian sources).
You make a very expensive fighter jet, but you decide to give it a terrible radar on purpose because of military doctrine.

I would just fix the TVC of the R-73

It makes sense. Maybe you didn’t turn off the afterburner, maybe the missile was launched too close.