it should get 2 more (r77s/r73s) missiles than su27sm , if they give it double pylons like the sm.
maybe tvc engines will save it in wvr against EFT/rafale.
30SM offers multirole/CAS capabilities that are not seen in Su-35, plus it offers China a competitive top tier CAS in form of 30MKK, so I can see why people want it more than any other Flanker variants. Plus 30SM has both canards and thrust vectoring.
Still I think Russia would probably needed the MiG-29K most, since it is long overdue a F-16C competitor and is the only single seat MIG-29M variant they operated
The next russian flanker might be Su-27SM3 and Su-30SM (Russian Navy)
Legacy hornet with AIM-120 AMRAAM or Super Hornet Block II equivalent ?
But I want gajin add Su-30SM from russian navy to naval aircraft line
can it take off from kuznetsov/does it have a tailhook ? i really want them to add the kuznetsov in air rb/air sim.
Both are technically the same no matter it is from VKS or VMF. It is likely to have a single airframe representing both forces.
Gajin not add new russian navy fighter aircraft top tier 2 years
Su-30SM from russian air force operator no tailhook landing on carrier, and not access anti-ship missile (exclusive for russian navy only).
I mean they both were produced in at least 1 airframe that had ALL the features the production aircraft would have had. (At least in the case of the MiG-29M we know production tools were ready to pump copies of the -156 aircraft (now OVT)).
They may save it in dogfights but i think it’s pretty well proven by now that acceleration/climb/speed are far more important for general air RB (especially for BVR) than dogfight performance. And this is pretty dependent on thrust to weight.
Isn’t the J-10 good enough for CAS? Still what the soviet tech tree lacks now is a very competitive top tier aircraft, not CAS. Su-34 is more than enough.
The original 29k is just a navalized original MiG-29M, they both have the small canopy. The ones produced in the 2000s both use the big canopy for single seat and 2 seat versions. (Single seat ones have a fuel tank in the place of the second seat).
Su-30MKK is very different to Su-30SM, it will be just havier Su-27SM without even new engines and will have only slightly more amount of some CAS weapon.
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GBU 39 on SU-27,
Maybe we can see them on IG. Sorry if this has already been posted I haven’t read the whole topic
Thats a UAF Su-27.
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2 GB500/GB250s/LS6500/LS6250 with a sacrifice of 4 PL12s. That says it. I have asked for 2 extra LS6250s but no reply yet, Su30MKK will literally just be a slightly side graded version of Su27SM.
Still with R77 and CAS options, it can at least be balanced, not do either or neither. Su30MKK does have some interesting features at least although I do agree it is not as much of an exiting aircraft compared to Su30Sm.
MiG-29K is still up there in the list
That’s why I think adding 29K pretty much solves the the issue without needing to add airframe but hey let’s stick back to the Flanker series
Currently only worthwhile, mass produced and famous Flanker/Fullback variants left for VKS is just these 5: Su-27SM3, Su-30SM, Su-30SM2, Su-35S and Su-34M. After that it’s already long overdue for Su-57.
Guess at this rate we are seeing 5th Gen in Dec 2025.
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Why do you want an heavier version of the same plane?
Yep, gaijin is just going turbo mode often skipping stuff
Simple answer honestly. It’s not about being lighter or heavier - It’s about being mass produced and fielded, and not being mass produced and fielded.
Edit: Plus 29K is lighter than 29M2 idk what you’re up here
Both the early versions of the M and K (9-15 and 9-31) were neither mass produced nor fielded in active service, while the modern ones (9-61 and 9-41) were both mass produced. No difference there.
It’s not, the M2 is basically a modern K without the naval stuff lol
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There was an extremely easy method for defeating the R-27ER when it was meta that made it a lot less relevant than USA mains claimed. It was actually pretty irrelevant in sim.
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Not 9-61, but 9-41S
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How is the usual su-27 (j-11) on 13.0 playing now? I want to buy a talisman, I feel they will add the ninth rank soon, I need to be safe for the future. Does it make sense? Or j-8F better?