Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

I think we all just want to see these machines perform how they should, hopefully Gaijin gets to them all.

I’m not huge on Russian aviation how much of an upgrade would the Su-35 be and is that the next logical step?

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Doubt it, it was leaked that they were working on the Su-30SM.

Well it would carry the powerful irbis e radar and it would have better engines with TVC… It would be too much for the game, next step will be the leaked su-30sm with the bars radar like somebody said, maybe with TVC aswell but i’m not certain

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Su-30SM is probably going to be the next step. I’d prefer if we got what were the true equivalents design wise to the F-15C/E and F-16C/Gripen (aka Su-27M and MiG-29M). But people seem to want the 30sm more

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Have to agree with them, great looking plane.

Unfortunately i notice that fulcrum doesn’t have many fans, if only the soviets didn’t send monkey models to die in iraq…

Right now it’s the perfect timeframe for the mig-29m, it would be able to face these delta canards in wvr and would be pretty decent at bvr, they could even revise the old fulcrum and improve them a bit, maybe touch the instructor a lil bit.

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imho it’s pretty ugly lol, the canopy is too high and big. The two I listed above are much better looking imho. Still anyone has their taste, what I’m worried about is that, since I sincerely hope we won’t skip straight to 30SM2, I think 30SM1 might be a downgrade overall compared to the Su-27SM flight performance wise. Weight is a lot higher and engines are pretty much comparable.

I wouldn’t worry about the Radar Gaijin haven’t cracked a PESA/AESA Radars yet.

Su-30SM double seater isn’t it does it carry more missiles or is it just a better radar and better ground strike options?

Reports are underway to fix the Rafale, AESA is currently in-game on two aircraft and PESA on the Su-34.

People will bomb Budapest if they add a broken version of irbis e xD

12 missiles, but much better radar than the N001VEP.

that its a lot of copium… Playing the SM right now for the event and its pure pain. Radar still trash it don’t lock for whatever reason. R77 feel even worst ATM. Literally countless of time today i have hard radar lock and somehow the R77 seeker just won’t lock and don’t even talk that now it can`t even kill people inside the 9km. Or R73… Some people where saying that they fixed the Thrust vectoring problem. But for me its the same.

I grinded the rafale. While i did have some problem with the Suppose AESA radar. That thing its like heaven and while Mica aren’t Aim120 i still get kill at range with them.

It would be competitive and be better than the 27SM since at high speed it has around the same thrust to weight as the eurofighter and a good radar, but it’s pretty limited compared to the EFT itself. It has much less countermeasures, thrust to weight is markedly lower at lower speeds and while great the airframe itself is just not comparable to the EFT.
Right patch for it to be meta was the J-10 one.

I wish i could enjoy early 4th gen era a bit more man, they are rushing stuff too fast, even the f18 got out of the party.

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Yeah F-15E addition was a slam dunk on the F-18.

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Typhoon Radar was the issue not the Rafale, the Typhoon for Britain is using a 1980s Radar the Radar on the Tornado and F-4F KWS are superior to the most advanced Mech scanned array.

Radar scan patterns and speed is an issue across the board, instead of returning to line one they rescan the bottom line this means you can have 4-8 seconds between refreshing on wide scan.

Rafale seems amazing and is receiving hourly buffs…flight model, drag, Radar and more missiles
MICAS are great for close to medium range they are hard to defeat and pull crazy hard

Also Su-30SM potentially can get Damocles

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That too, but I still doubt Gaiijn will do it.

It affects much more radars with slower scan speed thought. From what I’ve understood so far Captor-M has a rather large area scanned with each scan, but since scans are so far in between it ends up being worse than quicker scanning radars.

Wait til Top Gun 3 release.