I look forward to seeing your report on it!
This isn’t a report, they will not see this. Please submit it on the community site.
If this table is a actual, then the Su-27’s configuration is incorrect.
According to existing documents, starting out, it should be ahead of the F-15 by 5 degrees / s at speeds below 600 km / h.
At the moment, we need to wait for the DEV server to update, take measurements and see if anything has changed.
I will also note that its radar was configured incorrectly, the capture range should be up to 100-110 km.
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You are not considering the conditions. Those documents are likely discussing the F-15 on near minimum fuel vs an Su-27 at 50%. Please share what you are referencing so we can squash the misinformation.
You can just view the datamine and infer whether or not it is accurate. The Su-27 got a buff since the sustained turn test was conducted as well.
I have attached the documents above.
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It says here that on average at speeds from 600 to 300 km/h the Su-27 has a turn speed 5 deg/s faster
Comparison of F-15 and Su-27 graphs
The only value that has changed during the development of the server is “OswaldEfficiency ” or something like that.
Oswald efficiency is the energy efficiency of the aircraft. It will be better at holding energy.
The Russians assumptions on the performance of the F-15 mean absolutely nothing. The F-15 sustained turn rate is available publicly from the TO 1F-15A, 1986.
Currently the F-15 at speeds > 0.4 mach has sustained turn rate in-line with the manual. Below 0.4 mach it is underperforming as per my bug report. The Su-27 was already performing very closely to the sustained turn rate charts and as such the bug report for that aircraft was closed.
Stop sharing misinformation based on assumptions the soviets made about a plane they didn’t operate.
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Actually use Oswald efficiency complete crap, it gives a large margin of error and inaccuracy there is a more simplified formula
I gave above an extract with the F-15 overload schedule, it shows that “The Russians assumptions” are correct.
So calm down already.
The F-15 has never outperformed the Su-27 at speeds below 1100 km/h. And there can be no talk of any competition at speeds >0.4M
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He didn’t compare, he said that F15 FM >0.4 mach is wrong tho.
No, less than 0.4 mach is incorrect… should be a bit better. Above 0.4 mach it coincides with the manual.
I’d need to look side by side at the charts but there is no reason to use a secondary source for the F-15 when a primary is available. Stop using Russian charts for American planes when the American charts are easily accessible.
pretty sure the F-15 graph is just a different looking scan of the F-15A manual
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but its important to note this graph is for an F-15A at 60% internal fuel while the Su-27’s is for ~27% fuel + 2 R-73 and 2 R-27R
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Su-27 is for 50% fuel + missiles
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50% of normal 5.5t fuel refueling
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launched too early + locked on a flare
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Speed on the russian graph is true airspeed, equivalent airspeed…?
The Su-27 schedule…Posted above-DeltaSBW…
1…0.4M=489.8 km/h
2…250 knots=463 km/h
3…200 knots=370.4 km/h
Su-27=50% fuel+2_R-27 (between engines)+2_R-73 (on the wingtips)…
According to this graph, at an altitude of 200 meters (steady turn) …
the Su-27 should have …
1…200 knots-16.5 degrees per second …
2…250 knots-18.5 degrees per second…
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Yes!..this is the true speed…
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Who is interested in comparing it themselves…Graphs of F-15A…
1.Clean…
2.With pylons…
3.4_AIM-7+4_AIM-9…
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