Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

yeah i mean, for air rb the su27 loadout is insane good, but since i like to do more duels than play the normal air rb, it hurts getting your 1c performance ruined lol

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Apparently the DEV has been updated, the turn radius of the Su-27 is now like that of the F-16С.

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I’m starting to analyze the datamain

bruh, 23 degree of AoA is less than what the f16 pull with mouse aim smh
last time i saw the f16 can pul 24 degree or smt i think

Who would have thought that they will nerf the su27 cuz all the crying from usa mains lol

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Incorrectly Gear Cd and Airbreake
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They always have to nerf russian stuff cuz nuh russian Bias

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For some, we give traction on the document according to the wrong schedule. And we give others some kind of fiction. Adjust the losses in the air intake to a single schedule
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The fuel tank as one should be 2
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Incorrect RPM IDLE

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The flaperon passes through the body

It’s 24 degrees there and I have no information that there should be more

it says 23.5, but i still think it should be more than the f16, in this case, su27 should only lose 1c to delta wings, with 23.5 or even 24 it still can and will lose to something like the f16blk 10/15/20 in 1c


It’s just a shame.

Can you be more specific? What is wrong with the data and in what direction?

Geometric dimensions, areas. Moments of inertia
empty weight,fuel weight

I still don’t know what’s going on with the polar diagram

This won’t and can’t be the case. There isn’t room for error when modeling the FM and the F-15 doesn’t have the excuse of being statically unstable.

have you seen the f15 now? it looks like it can beat the su27 at 1c and also it has way more controll at extreme low speeds, it can still maneuver really well at like 200km/h or less, while the su27 cant, i cant say for sure since i just saw this at the defyn stream today, but the f15 looks way too good at 1c and slow speeds compared to the su27, for some reason the su27 can beat the f15 in a rate fight if both just hold S, (shouldn’t the f15 have an advantage in 2c and rate fights?)

maybe I’m just worried about the fate of the su27 since I see so many people complaining nonstop about the f15, just like they did with the f16 and now gaijin refuses to fix lol

It is simple enough to compare the charts and see how they perform. The Su-27’s FM was buffed, the F-15’s was also adjusted slightly (fixing overload issues allegedly). I need to look at the datamine.

Once they are live I will look further into them, I think maybe BBCRF is on another witch hunt that will convince people it is underperforming in some way that it is not. The devs are very wise imo.

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ok, thanks for paying attention to the su27 changes

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The FM SU-27 is disgusting. It’s anything but a Su-27,In addition to STR, there are other criteria such as acceleration, loss of height for a coup, rate of climb, stability and controllability