Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

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10377

No. What it take to accelerate from 0 to mach speed.

It was one of these “paid” art. Not the forum.

10378

I mean the SM2 is ALOT fatter.

10379

From what we “know”. Both are around 19t. IMO Su-35s data its wrong because it incluye Kibhiny pod and we don’t know what its the 50% fuel for it. But whatever. 300 to 400 Kilos is not a lot of diff.

10380

I keep getting mixed numbers on the su30sm weight, but since in the game it’s above 18.5-ish tonnes, shouldn’t the SM2 and the 35 be kind of close in terms of weight? Given that the su35 empty weight is also high?

10381

That-
No way…
How tf are they gonna make a twin seat the same mass as a single seat.-

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10382

I still refuse to believe 35 is heavier than a 30SM2 because of hwo much weight a 2nd man adds

The numbers are all over the place seriously

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10383

Literally what I was thinking lmao

Then again I read that it might be cause of the extra fuel tanks

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10384

I’m not sure but that really seems implausible.

But sillier stuff has been done before.

10385

I have also seen numbers that 35 can carry 11.5tons of fuel vs 30SM’s 9.4 tons

10386

Yeah and that the weight increase was due to further reinforcement made for the extra fuel/fuel tanks.

I read something like that too

10387

From what i know. The Su-35s its indeed lighter. But it have a lot more system than other Flankers. And they use some RAM that are heavy in some area of the plane. Some of these System were used on Early T-50 prototype. And late change for more modern and lighter ones. Like Computer, FBW and maws. etc etc.

10388

The Russians have mastered stealth. Just, not for the planes, for the plane fuel.

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10389

Yeah, this makes sense,

but the Su-35 being the same mass as the Su-30SM2…?

10390

rafale is better (AESA)

10391

30SM2 should have similar avionics as the 35 as an effort of standardization. But I don’t think I have heard of it getting RAM

RAM adds lots of weight

10392

What exactly is RAM?

10393

radar absorbing material

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10394

makes me think they store fuel in the cockpit as well -_-

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10395

Magic composite polymers that absorbs radio waves

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10396

That’s what I thought, just wanted to be sure.

Ty.