Please believe me if I tell you that in general SU-30 will clap F-16 no matter how fast or high F-16 is flying and that SU-30 usually has more than enough energy to evade missiles.
Especially if you use the effective range you have while taking advantage of it’s arsenal. Unlike Rafale for example which is just as dominant you often do not have to get as close to the enemy or play as aggressively to achieve the same results. Hanging back a little actually is quite reasonable.
If you fly to fast and to high especially straight towards the enemy chances of kills are not to high to begin with while you increase the chances of yourself being spotted by the enemy and consequently engaged.
Let’s be honest guys, currently, there isn’t a single nation that can’t do well in the top tier meta. Some will do a bit better some will do a bit worse but in the end it’s somehow balanced…
Su-30sm is enough for top tier, it’s a good plane but it’s also not op, it’s perfectly balanced.
I think if you master the EFT and get used to its crap radar you can do better with it than with the 30SM, but honestly i don’t have enough patience for that lol. I have the F-15E but only played two matches with it so i also can’t opine 100% about the plane, but i expect it to be also pretty good considering it’s basically a busted f-15c.
I personally like both equally, Rafale has the ludicrous acceleration and retention, better short range missile and HMD with IFF. SU30 has more varied missile-kit, 6 more missiles and a much nicer radar imo.
It really depends what you value in a fighter, and the skill level of both pilots
I played all 3 Eurofighters and Rafale after Storm Warning. Rafale did better from the start. Now Rafale does even better while Eurofighter is doing worse.
SU-30 and Rafale are the crown jewels right now.
both radars are pretty much equal imo, especially after they added TWS ESA
and you might be able to argue that the rafale one is better because of the higher gimbal limits
I’d take SU30 radar over Rafale any day, but I’d also take Rafale’s radar over pretty much any other radar in-game too. SU30’s is just much faster/more convenient scan areas for my playstyle.
This should get pretty equal (or even have an edge) once the Su-30sm2/Su-35 bring the IRBIS iirc? I remember reading that it had 120 degrees or something.
Well, it’s why I said “imo”, I know others might prefer Rafale’s radar. But for the Afghanistan mountain gameplay - where whoever finds the other person first has the advantage, the SU30 is much better suited in my experience. You know roughly what attitude your enemy will appear from, you just don’t know where
Rafales “smallest” vertical scan box is 16°, pretty huge. And the 31° is just unnecessary. They are good for BVR lapping at high altitude, as they’re covering a large area beneath you though.
When emerging from a mountain, I like having a wide, but somewhat narrow scan box, as I won’t know exactly where the enemy might appear from. SU30’s 80°x7° one is perfect for this. And it does the full scan in only 1.5 seconds. Rafale’s equivalent to this is its 70°x16° scan box, which takes 3.75 seconds to complete, more than twice as slow. The only “faster” mode of the Rafale is the 30°x16° one, which is more than half as wide and still has the unnecessary tall vertical area, and is roughly as fast as SU30’s 80°x7° one.
Unless you know within a 30° margin of where your opponent will appear, SU30’s will always be twice as fast as Rafale’s radar picking people up, disregarding the imo unnecessary scan height. If you know within 30°, SU30’s will still be as fast, if not slightly faster.
Slash Rafales scan heights in half, don’t even touch the “scan speed” and it’ll beat SU30’s imo
