Really…the Su-35 on paper has similar kinematics to the Eurocanards.
AEASA Radar and the same payload.
Ruslet write: Pohonnými jednotkami letounu typu Su-35 (Flanker M ) se konkrétně staly motory typu Al-41F-1S (iz.117S). Zmíněný motor přitom není ničím jiným, než zjednodušenou modifikací motoru typu Al-41F-1 se sníženým max. tahem z 14 500 kp na 14 000 kp v režimu přídavného spalování. Naproti tomu max. tah bez přídavného spalování obou zmíněných motorů, Al-41F-1S a Al-41F-1, je shodný.
Více zde: https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/p-o-suchoj/su-35s/
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Not really
It would be TWR a bit better than original Su-27, but more load on wing
Should perform quite close in STR
But it has TVC.
Its have about same weight as Su30sm. And lose canard for more powerful engine. Sure it may be better than Su-30sm in acceleration. But ATM for me that its not even the problem with Su-30sm. The plane lock it self at high speed. You EF main cry about 12g. You haven’t experience 7 to 8g on the Su-30sm. I may be wrong but how thing its going with 30sm the Su-35s could be Worst than Su-27sm. Sure that its better than Su-30sm. And it may even more fun to play than Su-30sm. But it wont be close to Rafale or EF performance.
Taking worst value ever. TWR would be 1.36 on Su-35s, maybe a bit lower i only calculate it at 19000 empty jet and 26000 for engine thrust accounting for the installation lose that on flanker that its almost 1 ton. . AT best it could be 1,40. Sure that its better. But like i said my problem with the FM its how it lock above match speed. With better engine maybe it can pull better G than Su-30sm. But without canard it would also lose some degree. How much we don’t know. My guess its that it will be close to Su-27sm. I don’t trust gaijin. I never expected the Su-30sm to be “good” i was one of the people calling it FAT and slow. But never expected gaijin to also mess up TVC to the point it stop working. So i prefer to have my reserve with the Su-35s.
The Su-30SM biggest downfall for me is its high altitude performance (8-10km). Will future planes with Al-41 improve this significantly?
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Yes and no, biggest problem is acceleration of these engines. With the current map sizes we have the AL-41 airframes will still be slower than a Eurocanard or an F-15
Of we double/triple the size of the map then yes
While Empty these plane have about the same “raw” performace. AL-41 plane carry a lot of weight. Just in Missile they carry like 2.5 tons. And fuel its like another 5 ton more.
The gap will be close. But EF, F15 and Rafale will still be better.
Edit; Fully kited Su-35s have a TWR of 0,98
In WT we can control the fuel we take so that shouldn’t be too bad. Unless I’m misunderstanding.
The Su-35 can carry two more missiles than the SM right, so it shouldn’t be too much more weight
In WT. Su-35s should carry the same loadout as Su-30sm. 50% of fuel on Su-35s its around 5.7 tons. How much fuel people end using will be related at how much the engine consume. I take like 26m on the Su-30sm whatever % that its…pretty sure its above the 50%.
Gaijin has zero knowledge in aerodynamics and the theory of gas turbine engines
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26m is 70%
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Bruh. Some very “inteligent” person flagged my comment about AL-41 for Su-35 in comment section about Su-35 as off-topic xDDD. Now I saw everything :D
Okey… I fixed this BS
Who is Talking Bs here
Yes the su30sm isn’t the top tog regarding Flight performance besides instant turn Rate
The radar is a Mixed bag
But besides that it’s a pretty Solid plane
Being a heavy missile bus Trading speed and agility for carrying enough missiles for the entire game plus some cas options if needed
Pretty sure a fully loaded (r27et/r77-1/r73) su30sm with 4 napalms and full fuel still outruns a F18 armed with 2 aim9m
It’s also faster than the su34
Well, Su-34 is like 6-7 tons heavier on empty
so i just tested my theory even with 4.5 metric tonnes of missiles and bombs and full fuel the su30sm still does 1.10-1.11 mach on the deck a f18 tops out at 1.08(with only 2 aim9m)
so
4 x zb500
4x r77-1
6x r27er(they are just the heaviest Russian air to air missile )
2x r73
and full fuel on the su30sm still outruns a f18c with minimum fuel and 2 aim9m
because the f-18 is the slowest 4th gen and hits is max speed of mach 1.08
it is like being suprised that a fully loaded f-4 is faster than a f-5
the only thing that would impact top speed and not acceleration is the external load of a plane
so it dosent matter if you take full or minfuel in the case of the f-18
was mainly just disproving this
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but the f-18 is the only jet you are able to outrun
btw it still more or less reaches the same speed even with a full A2A loadout and a droptank
I know my English suck. But you should at least read everything. I pretty sure, i have said that the only good part of the Su-30sm are how much missile it have. That its implying R-77-1 and how you can use them to “Control” zone. Also just for the Records I has always being against Gaijin add R-77-1. Just the need to add a new missile so the trash would be able to compete. Prove how bad it is.
Oh i totally forgot that that thing exist. I forgot how people joke that this update should have be called NOT BR 14.0 Material.
Yea lets outrun this F-18 when it Amraams catch me or the EF/Rafale/F-15… … …
not necessarily the radar on the su30sm is a huge step up from the su27sm radar so even with r77 it would be decent
down the line we could get the su30sm without canards so it will perform closer to the su27 in flight model
or if gaijin is really generous su30sm2 new engines new radar (i hope they can add it without the r37(i think it was huge long range missile))