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Drop your statshark, since you’re so high and mighty, yet I can’t seem to find a trace of you anywhere…
And it’s currently sitting at a 2.8 with the aircraft in question, despite not even having finished spading so I really don’t see you point.
Huh, that is odd. Have you checked if they only track while on the pylon or if they loose track if you fire before they leave the smoke?
We should test it
Seriously Cut your BS. You don’t even have the Su-30sm and you come here copium its the second best jet in game. All the crap you said comparing it to the Typhoon its Bs. You don’t even know the problem with Su-30sm or R-77-1 you keep claiming that Su-30sm its better than Typhoon when reality its not even close. Did you forget about all the people that come into the forum for gaijin to introduce Al-41?. The FM its trash. Sadly there is not way to even report that. That its why you don’t see people talking about it. Also I have more problem with Su-30sm radar that i do with EF radar. Even with “Reset” buttons the Radar keep looking down for no reason. So far the amount of missile its the only thing Su-30sm its good at.
Both can produce 14500 Kgf. Dunno why sometime the one on the Su-35s its lower to 14000. Also 177c that its the new engine that can be use on all Su-27 family. its Also Rate to 14500kgf.
Al-37FU research it lifespan. That why later they change it to Al-31pf…
Cope, Mica are better in a better platform.
When your plane has the worst FM on the tier. You’re force to use it and pray that R-73 hit something. You won’t outrun a sh*t, you won’t win a turn fight. You’re only hope its a gimmick that its bad model and frozen the jet for 2 second doing nothing.
That has nothing to do with Russian… Stop lying. The plane was overperforming. And Typhoon main starting crying that they also want Muh cobra button. When plane never have and couldn’t have because when they tested it the plane literally would fall of the sky. Literally you guys bring the nerf upon yourself. Don’t even talk about the Stupid battle on forum that you guys has with Rafale mains.
Rafale can’t do that. Just like almost all AESA it have 120 to 140º azimuth. Only future project like ECRS MK1 and MK2 could do that. Or the Indian prototype for Flankers that use Bars mechanic part. If Germany receive the ECRS mk1 this year you guys can expected it to come. But its not close to IRBIS in that regard.
Now i declare myself a Rafale main. Cope harder EF fellas!.
Oh not my EF it Tie to the most light Rafale ever.
Reference Duel: Rafale vs Eurofighter. (Squish vs S i n)
Yeah that’s Bait…quick Gaijin add Su-35 for Temeraire
At this point it will be as bad as Su-30sm. Maybe not even close to Su-27sm FM.
Really…the Su-35 on paper has similar kinematics to the Eurocanards.
AEASA Radar and the same payload.
Ruslet write: Pohonnými jednotkami letounu typu Su-35 (Flanker M ) se konkrétně staly motory typu Al-41F-1S (iz.117S). Zmíněný motor přitom není ničím jiným, než zjednodušenou modifikací motoru typu Al-41F-1 se sníženým max. tahem z 14 500 kp na 14 000 kp v režimu přídavného spalování. Naproti tomu max. tah bez přídavného spalování obou zmíněných motorů, Al-41F-1S a Al-41F-1, je shodný.
Více zde: https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/p-o-suchoj/su-35s/
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Not really
It would be TWR a bit better than original Su-27, but more load on wing
Should perform quite close in STR
But it has TVC.
Its have about same weight as Su30sm. And lose canard for more powerful engine. Sure it may be better than Su-30sm in acceleration. But ATM for me that its not even the problem with Su-30sm. The plane lock it self at high speed. You EF main cry about 12g. You haven’t experience 7 to 8g on the Su-30sm. I may be wrong but how thing its going with 30sm the Su-35s could be Worst than Su-27sm. Sure that its better than Su-30sm. And it may even more fun to play than Su-30sm. But it wont be close to Rafale or EF performance.
Taking worst value ever. TWR would be 1.36 on Su-35s, maybe a bit lower i only calculate it at 19000 empty jet and 26000 for engine thrust accounting for the installation lose that on flanker that its almost 1 ton. . AT best it could be 1,40. Sure that its better. But like i said my problem with the FM its how it lock above match speed. With better engine maybe it can pull better G than Su-30sm. But without canard it would also lose some degree. How much we don’t know. My guess its that it will be close to Su-27sm. I don’t trust gaijin. I never expected the Su-30sm to be “good” i was one of the people calling it FAT and slow. But never expected gaijin to also mess up TVC to the point it stop working. So i prefer to have my reserve with the Su-35s.
The Su-30SM biggest downfall for me is its high altitude performance (8-10km). Will future planes with Al-41 improve this significantly?
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Yes and no, biggest problem is acceleration of these engines. With the current map sizes we have the AL-41 airframes will still be slower than a Eurocanard or an F-15
Of we double/triple the size of the map then yes
While Empty these plane have about the same “raw” performace. AL-41 plane carry a lot of weight. Just in Missile they carry like 2.5 tons. And fuel its like another 5 ton more.
The gap will be close. But EF, F15 and Rafale will still be better.
Edit; Fully kited Su-35s have a TWR of 0,98
In WT we can control the fuel we take so that shouldn’t be too bad. Unless I’m misunderstanding.
The Su-35 can carry two more missiles than the SM right, so it shouldn’t be too much more weight
In WT. Su-35s should carry the same loadout as Su-30sm. 50% of fuel on Su-35s its around 5.7 tons. How much fuel people end using will be related at how much the engine consume. I take like 26m on the Su-30sm whatever % that its…pretty sure its above the 50%.
Gaijin has zero knowledge in aerodynamics and the theory of gas turbine engines
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26m is 70%
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Bruh. Some very “inteligent” person flagged my comment about AL-41 for Su-35 in comment section about Su-35 as off-topic xDDD. Now I saw everything :D
Okey… I fixed this BS
Who is Talking Bs here
Yes the su30sm isn’t the top tog regarding Flight performance besides instant turn Rate
The radar is a Mixed bag
But besides that it’s a pretty Solid plane
Being a heavy missile bus Trading speed and agility for carrying enough missiles for the entire game plus some cas options if needed
Pretty sure a fully loaded (r27et/r77-1/r73) su30sm with 4 napalms and full fuel still outruns a F18 armed with 2 aim9m
It’s also faster than the su34