Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Absolutely hilarious, considering that T-10 not only had different airframe but also weaker engines.

Same crazy ideas floating about in here.

Btw all aircraft suffer thrust loss when pulling

They do but Typhoon has been massively impacted it falls out of the sky now compared to when it was first added.

Someone did the calcs and Typhoon in acceleration and time to turn is now performing at the levels of the RB 199 engined prototype and not the real EJ200 performance figures. As it stands in game it would not have met the acceptance criteria

you started this my g, even the comment about the r77-1 “being able to fire 180 shots” was yours, lol, every now and then you come here in this thread to cry about something because somehow you are losing to it (skill issue), the last big one was how the su27sm beats the gripen, according to you, now the su30 and the r77-1 and now you also keep hijacking the thread to talk about damn EFT.

I asked a question about the R-77-1 in the group that should know what the missile was capable of.

Gripen has been buffed now and is as good as Rafale in BFM at the time SU-27SM was overperforming at higher speeds (was I wrong?)

gripen should NEVER lose to a flanker in dogfights, it never did in war thunder, that was pure skill issue on your side, the flanker is slightly overperforming at speeds above mach 1 (and we dont even know if thats true or not, especially in the su27sm case, cause there is 0 sources for that, no one knows how good su27 is with al31fm1 engines), why tf would anyone dogfight at that speed? to make a gigantic circle and let anyone sit inside?

nope there is a dedicated r-77 thread

if you have questions dedicated to the r-77 ask there

that only works if you are 100% sure your enemy dosent have any missiles and even then the gripen can just sit inside your circle

even without missiles, any competent pilot can controll how much they’re pulling and can keep the plane at around 800 km/h to stay comfortably inside someone’s mach 1 circle and that without having to worry too much about running out of energy

And if they do, well, the deltas pick the speed back up like it’s nothing, flankers don’t, especially the new Su-30

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It never stopped overperforming at high speeds, but the gripen also isn’t much different from how It was back when you made your statement, su-27sm never could beat it in bfm…

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Wouldnt be suprised if he was in squad with second guy…

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I remember getting a lock on an enemy who was in the smoke on capture point

I locked him while he was in the smoke, and the missile (still on the pylon) was tracking him as he moved out of the smoke …

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Drop your statshark, since you’re so high and mighty, yet I can’t seem to find a trace of you anywhere…

And it’s currently sitting at a 2.8 with the aircraft in question, despite not even having finished spading so I really don’t see you point.

Huh, that is odd. Have you checked if they only track while on the pylon or if they loose track if you fire before they leave the smoke?