Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Ah, good old “it’s actually good IRL” so it must be overpowered in the game. And ofc the “if we had an accurate X it would be Y” My guy, this is a Flanker thread, go with your Triangle glazing somewhere else

Mig29 is actually good IRL

if we had an accurate FM on the Flanker it would be something

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Yes we were having a civil conversation.
Eh yeah thats how the game works…or is the Su-30 dog shit IRL?

We can revisit this when 120C5 gets added and Typhoon and other 120 carriers can abuse sitting in the notch.

not as much as the Su-35 would be able to ( 120° of gimbal to one side)

But we do not, otherwise good mate over there would ask for instant Meteor upgrade for Eurofighter cuz “Russian Bias”

Rafale can do that too if the Radar was modelled correctly.
as will Typhoon with Captor E

ofc we can, and i will be absolutely sure that someone will still complain that a certain triangle is “underperforming”

true russia is not able to build manouverable jets, they only build missile busses

and on airshows?
they are clearly removing all avionics from it

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To be fair, on airshows aircrafts do tend to be loaded with least weight possible, it’s an airshow after all. But Gaijin just refuses to properly, or at least consistently model aircrafts in the game so we have what we have.

the thing is you cant really remove avionics and stuff from the aircraft as it would shift the center of mass
the only way you can controll weight on an aircraft (even for airshows) is the fuel load

Absolute cringe discussion (like 90% of wt forum discussions)

Proved that it is and the nerfs to the fm but sure bro gaslight me

Yes, that is true. From my understanding airshow models just have loaded weight in such places, for security reasons. But they tend to have just enough fuel for a program (or at least the least amount you can load without messing up the center mass.

You brought this upon yourself.

Why is eft cancer being discussed here

Started with R-77-1 being able to hit 180 shots and then devloved into this.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/sg9YKR3XMA0o
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Rzq0VWgKNTSO
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/NnsJ3fscrl7R
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OcyfPfZLY902

Look guys we know the controversy around EFT performance but shouting at other tree mains won’t help correcting the aircraft, let’s avoid repeating that Rafale fanboy that i forgot the name fiasco here…

HM, so high speed performance does feel accurate, but low speed is completely off. If i pull 8G at 800 in a flanker with this load if will fall from the air

yeah iirc low speed performance isnt correct

could be a lack of lift or something idk