Suggestion: Revise AH-64E Countermeasures & AGM-179 MR Speed to Match Real-World Data

[Fanta_3412]

@thisconnect你好

Idk what you guys actually want because you all want to NERF the missile by putting all of its power in booster phase.

Its missing the power in the booster phase XD

[noister]

are we sure that the mach 1.5 speed thing is from rotor launcher and not fixed wing? because launches from aircraft will obviously increase the speed not attainable from helicopter launches

[tripod2008]

The Fixed wing option is known as the AGM-187A, not the -179. It has slight physical differences that optimize it for fixed wing launch.

[noister]

hmm, thanks for correction

[Ge_Low-psn]

Nice suggestion i was also thinking of this the stats are way off.

Edit: could someone make a bug report???

[joshje100]

@PaPaYa OpTiCzZ@live

Platforms: Apache AH-64E, MQ-1C Gray Eagle ER drones, and intended for F-35 integration

Also plans for it to be integrated onto other helicopters we have in-game such as the MH-60 DAP, AH-6M and the AH-1Z.

Also I know it’s not JAGM-MR but there’s also the JAGM-F being planned to be launched from fixed wing aircraft like the F-16C, F-15E, A-10C etc.

[thisconnect你好]

@kitsune_qq

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Sure, youre not changing physics. But you can change materials used for motor, which will give more thrust.

You can’t because we already pretty much use the most efficient motor. The amount of mass means there is maximum amount of impulse it can produce, you just cant do better with solid propellant.

AIM-9B in game already has pretty much leader in class 250s of specific impulse at ground level. You can get better with better nozzles at higher altitude but you will always be limited to the fundamental efficiency of solid rocket motor. Oh and if you want “smokeless” you are paying performance penalty for that.

There are ways around it like liquid fuel engines, or airbreathing engines (jets), but they require so much more dry mass of injectors, turbopumps, plumbing that they barely start exisiting in the 150kg MRAAM air-to-air missile today while being way more expensive.

Literally all of the improvement from aim9b to aim9x comes from bigger size (and relative reducing of dry equipment mass due to more modern electronics) as well as more efficient aerodynamic designs (which we also plateaued at) and better trajectories (instead of tail chase, try intercept)

TLDR: There is no way for the missile to have more performance to match that made up mach 1.5 number without growing significant weight (which it cant because we have hard number)

[soymilkman]

Dang guys we a have an engineer from Rocketdyne over here.

[quartas121]

I heard they dropped JAGM-F, hopefully I’m wrong

[ileaveuptiers]

The Hellfire 114R-4 already travels twice the distance of the prior generations of hellfires. The new nozzle design and advances in rocketry which has been implemented in the R-4 has been used towards the AGM-179MR. You have no proof and are making unsubstantiated claims. You, some random nobody on the internet vs the R&D Lockheed Martin has put into these missiles. Lmfao.

[YaBoyCoconut]

@soymilkman

Dang guys we a have an engineer from Rocketdyne over here.

@ileaveuptiers

The Hellfire 114R-4 already travels twice the distance of the prior generations of hellfires. The new nozzle design and advances in rocketry which has been implemented in the R-4 has been used towards the AGM-179MR. You have no proof and are making unsubstantiated claims. You, some random nobody on the internet vs the R&D Lockheed Martin has put into these missiles. Lmfao.

He is a troll and the thinks that 1960 was the last time we had innovation in terms of rockets, please ignore him.
Theres a wave of them lashing out due to the CM502KG being bad at killing tanks (by design) , dont pay them attention.

[rubyfox]

Please make a bug report to see if they will fix it. They won’t fix it if it’s sent here.
Granted, they likely won’t fix it if it is bug reported.