Suggestion Pending: IRAQI ZSU-23-4 (USA) Captured after abandonment

DISCLAIMER: This is just a work in progress draft/backup for a future suggestion and is not a suggestion as of yet

ZSU-23-4: Captured After Abandonment

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Overview: The ZSU-23-4 “Shilka” in Iraqi and US Service

Origins and Technical Development

Developed by the Soviet Union in the early 1960s, the ZSU-23-4 was designed to solve a critical vulnerability: protecting mobile ground forces from high-speed, low-altitude strike aircraft. By mounting four 23mm autocannons on a tracked chassis and integrating the RPK-2 “Gun Dish” radar, Soviet engineers created an all-weather, day-and-night air defense platform. This integration provided a level of mobile lethality that NATO forces had never previously encountered, allowing the vehicle to track and engage targets through darkness, smoke, or heavy fog.

Combat History and Evolution

The Shilka proved its worth during the 1973 Yom Kippur War, where it worked alongside Surface-to-Air Missiles (SAMs) to create lethal “no-fly zones.” Its massive volume of fire forced pilots to fly at higher altitudes, where they became vulnerable to larger missiles. In the Soviet-Afghan War, the vehicle’s high gun elevation allowed it to engage insurgents hidden on mountain ridges—a role that earned it the nickname “the sewing machine” due to the rapid, rhythmic cadence of its fire. Despite its aging electronics, the Shilka remains a staple in over 30 countries today.

Operational Usage: The Liberation of Kuwait

During the 1990–1991 Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, the ZSU-23-4 served as the primary mobile air defense for Iraq’s elite Republican Guard. These units were strategically positioned in desert berms and urban centers to provide a 360-degree “wall of lead” against Coalition aircraft. Iraqi commanders used the Shilka to fill the gaps where larger SAM systems struggled at low altitudes. Its presence effectively forced Coalition pilots to fly above 10,000 feet, sacrificing bombing precision for safety.

However, during Operation Desert Storm, the system’s reliance on radar became its downfall. The “Gun Dish” radar acted as a beacon for Coalition anti-radiation missiles and was frequently neutralized by advanced electronic jamming. This forced Iraqi crews to use manual optical sights, which were significantly less effective against fast-moving jets. Ultimately, many Shilkas were picked off from long range by AH-64 Apaches and A-10 Warthogs using Hellfire and Maverick missiles, which outranged the ZSU’s 2.5 km reach. By the war’s end, many functional vehicles were abandoned by retreating Iraqi forces along the “Highway of Death.”

US Acquisition and OPFOR Evaluation

Following the collapse of the Iraqi lines, Coalition forces captured several fully functional ZSU-23-4s. These vehicles were shipped back to the United States for extensive technical assessment. Before becoming museum pieces—such as the example currently housed at the Kansas National Guard Museum—they were operated by the US Army to study their threat profile against Western aircraft. They were also utilized as OPFOR (Opposing Forces) training assets to simulate Soviet-bloc tactics, with at least one ZSU-23 being documented in use at Camp Pendleton, California, as late as June 1997.

Sources

RIA Self-Guided Tour: The Shiika | Article | The United States Army
https://kansasguardmuseum.com/ (virtual tour: Exterior 14)
A single ZSU-23-4 was last known to be located at the Rock Island Arsenal in May of 2019; however, the official site for the RIA no longer has any mentions of it or its current location.
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6463613

Images:

RIA Self-Guided Tour: The Shiika | Article | The United States Army
File:ZSU-23-4-Camp-Pendleton.jpg - Wikipedia

Would you like to see this vehicles added to the game?
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Closed because people dont know how to read something rather than just assume what it is, and dont realize this is a draft meant for feedback on how its layed out

Edit cause this got false reports as spam when it clearly isnt

And why does the US need a shilka? It is one of the nations that is not missing SPAA at that BR.

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Ahem because why not, it’s more of a novelty that represents a part of history more than anything else also it would be good for 8.0 where’s the only spaa available is the m163 (7.3)

Should go to Germany first as the East Germans used it

This ,captured in a war’’ argument for copy-pasting something into a techtree is, in my opinion, not really valid, at least in the current state of the game. It’s enough to have copy-paste from vehicles that have been trialed by a nation (T-80U, Mi-28 in Sweden), or straight up exported with next to no changes to it’s characteristics. The US does not need a ZSU-23-4, just as it doesn’t need the Prinz Eugen (trophy ship claimed at the end of ww2) or the Mig-29 (purchased from Moldova in 1997).

not even remotely related fyi its iraqi

Was in East German service

That would be another suggestion idea entirely

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been looking into it, only copy paste part would be the damage model if they were to use the Rock Island armory one, would have a different visal model and camo (I think havent looked at the USSR’s ZSU-23 camos) but in regards to the trophy vehicle idea, its not surprisingly the US used several of them for testing and evaluations had we not it would be an invalid suggestion, its unfortunate that I cant find info on when any of those test took place, likely classified anyways.

Yes, but if it should go anywhere it should go to the Germans first before it goes to the US.

It should go to none of the 2 since it is not needed and is copy paste anyway.

the germans didnt use captured iraqi zsu’s, however that would make for a good suggestion.

It was historically used it would be good to make a 8.0 lineup

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They did use the zsu, it should go to the Germans before the US.

not arguing that, its just that its not this zsu that they used, mainly since this one specifically is a captured iraqi zsu from Kuwait

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But how exactly is this one different from the USSR one apart from camo?? Because that can just be added as an actual camo for the OG one.

different visual model

Spoiler

RIA ZSU-23: RIA Self-Guided Tour: The Shiika | Article | The United States Army

Russian ZSU-23:

also theres no way they are going to give the russain zsu access to NATO CERC/ MERDEC camo lol

how

its literally just a shilka without any modifications

external cargo and other smaller differences

so its literally nothing unique got it

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